It's about having something distinct and of quality to offer, companies and organisations can speak directly to followers in lots of ways and repeating things quickly is now a tech thing covered by big corps but it's not journalism.
Things like Private eye with a bit of humour, investigations and digs at authority will grow as political journalism is carved up by those with agendas.
I don’t agree with you about local papers. For one thing they are the media equivalent of a development squad where aspiring young journalists can learn their trade without too much pressure. They also provide a valuable service of purely local stories that other forms of the media aren’t interested in publishing. Think also of local advertising, small companies can’t afford the higher rates charged by daily papers. Outside of the club’s own media output, the BFP gives Wanderers more coverage than any other of the PL obsessed papers and long may that continue.
Does the BFP publish certain content exclusively in print? My point was that by the time the paper comes out on a Friday, people have surely read most of the stories online already. And they do put out a high volume of Wycombe content, but that doesn't mean it's good.
As for nationals, why wouldn't they be "obsessed" with the most popular league in the world?! And the likes of the Guardian and i manage that while still producing plenty of content on 'lesser' leagues (see Ben Fisher's quite frequent pieces on Wycombe, for example).
It also goes without saying that the paper local to any club of our size gives them far more coverage than a national, so I don't really understand your point there?
You have totally ignored the wider points I made in defence of local newspapers because you wrongly assume that almost everyone gets their news etc online. I was not commenting on the quality of the BFP coverage of Wanderers because that is subjective, but in terms of quantity they provide a valuable service that gives the club prominence throughout the county. On your other point, it always frustrates me that there is so little coverage of the EFL in the national papers who now give even more column inches to the WSL than they do to lower league clubs who have far more followers.
In 2021, 73% of the UK population accessed news online, compared to 32% via print media (source: Ofcom). I'd be interested to see the BFP's circulation, because I find it hard to believe it's sustainable.
If those figures are correct it still means that almost one third of the population access news via print media. What I disagreed with is your presumption that weekly papers are as good as useless which is wrong and disrespectful for the reasons I gave.
I expect the % who access news solely through print media is substantially lower. Any paper is largely redundant as a primary news source if only printed weekly - even if someone isn't internet-savvy, chances are they watch/listen to the news - which means adapting to try and survive in an increasingly tough climate for print. That's why I asked if the BFP ran much by way of print exclusives; are they offering sufficient reader value to make the paper worth buying?
I remember the great days of the Bucks Free Press and the Midweek Free Press and the amazing coverage they gave to local football.
The coverage was not only the Wanderers but the other local teams and the very strong Saturday and Sunday leagues.
The Sunday League always had amazing coverage which was organised by the late Martin Cyster who lived and breathed local football via the Sunday Combination.
I couldn’t wait to get a copy of the BFP to trawl through the reports and analyse the tables of both the High Wycombe Saturday and Sunday leagues. Those were the days but sadly most of that is now long gone.
I'd say its the same when Steven Taylor joined us on loan for a month. Everyone was shocked that we had a defender that won tackles & headers and could also pass the ball. The only part of Adams reign that wasn't a s**tshow
There are stories that appear in weekly papers that would never see the light of day in any other form of media. A church garden fete, opening of a new shop, photos of children on their first day at primary school etc. You may scoff and point out that they are far too trivial for a wider audience, but they are of real interest to the local population. For those reasons alone we should treasure our local press and hope it survives.
Totally agree with @glasshalffull on this occasion ( very rare for me !!) we should support our local press because it reports on a plethora of local issues which mean a lot to many people. Long May it continue.
But the BFP cover all of that (apart from the school photos, I assume) on their website. And the newspaper-buying demographic is ever shrinking. There will come a point where it's simply not viable to print. This argument seems to have been misconstrued as an attack on local press in general; I'm only questioning the need for the print version, which - in the BFP's case - I think will run its course in the next 5-10 years if not sooner.
On the BFP debate (Bucks Free Press @micra ;) ) I recently had a conversation with a fellow Bucks exile up here in Yorkshire (not a Wycombe fan) and when I said I was a Wycombe fan the first thing she said was that the BFP was FULL of Wycombe Wanderers! That can only be a good thing right?!
The BFP covers the Wanderers in great detail but other sport gets virtually none at all. When I played cricket all the local results and scorecards were printed every week. Now even the leading clubs get no mention. The same goes for other sports as well.
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It's about having something distinct and of quality to offer, companies and organisations can speak directly to followers in lots of ways and repeating things quickly is now a tech thing covered by big corps but it's not journalism.
Things like Private eye with a bit of humour, investigations and digs at authority will grow as political journalism is carved up by those with agendas.
I don’t agree with you about local papers. For one thing they are the media equivalent of a development squad where aspiring young journalists can learn their trade without too much pressure. They also provide a valuable service of purely local stories that other forms of the media aren’t interested in publishing. Think also of local advertising, small companies can’t afford the higher rates charged by daily papers. Outside of the club’s own media output, the BFP gives Wanderers more coverage than any other of the PL obsessed papers and long may that continue.
Does the BFP publish certain content exclusively in print? My point was that by the time the paper comes out on a Friday, people have surely read most of the stories online already. And they do put out a high volume of Wycombe content, but that doesn't mean it's good.
As for nationals, why wouldn't they be "obsessed" with the most popular league in the world?! And the likes of the Guardian and i manage that while still producing plenty of content on 'lesser' leagues (see Ben Fisher's quite frequent pieces on Wycombe, for example).
It also goes without saying that the paper local to any club of our size gives them far more coverage than a national, so I don't really understand your point there?
Transfer deadline is 11pm tomorrow btw
Hide him in @micra's upturned tin bath.
Wasn't it the other family's tin bath?
Do you want to see Anis go....
You have totally ignored the wider points I made in defence of local newspapers because you wrongly assume that almost everyone gets their news etc online. I was not commenting on the quality of the BFP coverage of Wanderers because that is subjective, but in terms of quantity they provide a valuable service that gives the club prominence throughout the county. On your other point, it always frustrates me that there is so little coverage of the EFL in the national papers who now give even more column inches to the WSL than they do to lower league clubs who have far more followers.
In 2021, 73% of the UK population accessed news online, compared to 32% via print media (source: Ofcom). I'd be interested to see the BFP's circulation, because I find it hard to believe it's sustainable.
If those figures are correct it still means that almost one third of the population access news via print media. What I disagreed with is your presumption that weekly papers are as good as useless which is wrong and disrespectful for the reasons I gave.
I agree on the Nationals. Reading The Telegraph and The Times you would think nothing happened outside the Prem, oh and The Champions League.
I expect the % who access news solely through print media is substantially lower. Any paper is largely redundant as a primary news source if only printed weekly - even if someone isn't internet-savvy, chances are they watch/listen to the news - which means adapting to try and survive in an increasingly tough climate for print. That's why I asked if the BFP ran much by way of print exclusives; are they offering sufficient reader value to make the paper worth buying?
I remember the great days of the Bucks Free Press and the Midweek Free Press and the amazing coverage they gave to local football.
The coverage was not only the Wanderers but the other local teams and the very strong Saturday and Sunday leagues.
The Sunday League always had amazing coverage which was organised by the late Martin Cyster who lived and breathed local football via the Sunday Combination.
I couldn’t wait to get a copy of the BFP to trawl through the reports and analyse the tables of both the High Wycombe Saturday and Sunday leagues. Those were the days but sadly most of that is now long gone.
What do we want? All the news
When do we want it? Now!!
I must admit I do enjoy sitting on a train reading the Metro or Standard. I also read news on a phone.
I'd say its the same when Steven Taylor joined us on loan for a month. Everyone was shocked that we had a defender that won tackles & headers and could also pass the ball. The only part of Adams reign that wasn't a s**tshow
There are stories that appear in weekly papers that would never see the light of day in any other form of media. A church garden fete, opening of a new shop, photos of children on their first day at primary school etc. You may scoff and point out that they are far too trivial for a wider audience, but they are of real interest to the local population. For those reasons alone we should treasure our local press and hope it survives.
Totally agree with @glasshalffull on this occasion ( very rare for me !!) we should support our local press because it reports on a plethora of local issues which mean a lot to many people. Long May it continue.
Glad to see we have some common ground!
But the BFP cover all of that (apart from the school photos, I assume) on their website. And the newspaper-buying demographic is ever shrinking. There will come a point where it's simply not viable to print. This argument seems to have been misconstrued as an attack on local press in general; I'm only questioning the need for the print version, which - in the BFP's case - I think will run its course in the next 5-10 years if not sooner.
As granny used to say “Give it a rest”.
anyone think we will make any 1st team signings today ?
I hope so but wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t
I'm mostly hoping we keep Tafazolli and the rumours prove incorrect, though I'd also appreciate a loan target man if any clubs have one spare.
Your world (of your generation) has so much, but I do feel for what you have lost and never had.
Like affordable housing.
What language is this?
On the BFP debate (Bucks Free Press @micra ;) ) I recently had a conversation with a fellow Bucks exile up here in Yorkshire (not a Wycombe fan) and when I said I was a Wycombe fan the first thing she said was that the BFP was FULL of Wycombe Wanderers! That can only be a good thing right?!
Pensions?
Ah yes, I've heard about these
The BFP covers the Wanderers in great detail but other sport gets virtually none at all. When I played cricket all the local results and scorecards were printed every week. Now even the leading clubs get no mention. The same goes for other sports as well.