@Malone said:
That season Hayes pulled that absolute boner on us, and left us scrabbling around in the Z bucket for players effectively killed the optimism and the hopes for the season.
So you can only imagine how Bury feel, with a much worse situation.
As bad as it is to say it though, we have to look at our own interests, and those two -12s really help our chances.
Put a win in over Bolton first day, and you get a massive margin to play with from day 1.
I wonder what happens if Bolton can't fulfil the fixture? Can't be beyond the realms of possibility.
@Malone said:
That season Hayes pulled that absolute boner on us, and left us scrabbling around in the Z bucket for players effectively killed the optimism and the hopes for the season.
So you can only imagine how Bury feel, with a much worse situation.
As bad as it is to say it though, we have to look at our own interests, and those two -12s really help our chances.
Put a win in over Bolton first day, and you get a massive margin to play with from day 1.
I wonder what happens if Bolton can't fulfil the fixture? Can't be beyond the realms of possibility.
The bigger worry is we destroy them with a feast of football and put in a 2-0 win, and then Bolton go to the wall later on in the season, wiping the points.
(Obviously a miniscule problem compared to a famous club going bust of course!)
This Bolton thing could either be a huge advantage (play a bunch of new kids the first day), or a disadvantage (play a postponed game later in the season where the fixture congestion kills us with a small squad).
I will be gutted if the opening fixture is postponed, needless to say.
Got to feel sorry for Plymouth fans. Their fine club relegated down to the bottom league only for a basket case club to replace it that could easily go bust before the season starts.
If Bolton have enough ‘kids’ (or whoever) on their books, they should play the fixture. The league can’t just allow them to get up to speed. I seem to remember Weymouth being in a bit of a pickle a few years back, after they had overstretched financially - but still fulfilled their fixtures by playing their youth team for the rest of the season in the Conference, or whichever league they were in.
“A bit of difficulty”. Understatement of the year @Malone. One of my matchday passengers who bailed out three or four years ago for the somewhat flimsy reason that the officials were so bad (plus ça change) is/was a Bolton supporter (we’ve not kept in touch because journeys home after matches were boringly/uncomfortably silent after I’d dropped the others off) and I wonder if I should give him a call. Probably not.
His heart just wasn’t in it. He never got the bug like most of us (including the other two passengers). After I’d dropped the other two off I’d make comments about the game we’d just been watching (like you do!) and I’d rarely get much more than an “mmmm”. I hate silence (and I know I talk and write too much) but we are only talking ten minutes from Totteridge to Hazlemere so it was no big deal. He is/was a southerner but I think he spent time in the North West. Bolton were doing ok during the carshare years and his interest in them was not a factor.
I’m going to ring him now !
Sorry @Malone. Must have been laboriously tapping out my comments (in response to @peterparrotface) when you posted. 20-30 minutes to ground. Same for return. The other two, only one of whom is still “with us”, had plenty to say and were good company. I should have realised that there might be interpersonal difficulties with the Bolton guy many years ago when, chatting in Cedar Avenue one day I was being very critical of Barclays Bank. He’d been a manager (of a different Branch) and took great umbrage, as if I was attacking him personally. He suggested I bloody well switched to a different bank. I’d already known him, his missus and their two bearded collies through dog walking for a decade or two.
If a 20min drive with someone is too much after football, it really ain't working!
Having said that, sometimes, after so many years watching football and relentlessly drilling down every detail, I can quite comfortably sit in peace watching a game, and certainly afterwards!
I drive myself to and from games and the atmosphere after some games in the car home can be frightening...usually because 3CR are interviewing Paul Tisdale at length...
@Wendoverman said:
I drive myself to and from games and the atmosphere after some games in the car home can be frightening...usually because 3CR are interviewing Paul Tisdale at length...
Well at least Paul Tisdale is not as insufferable as Nathan Jones was. Jones made me swear at the radio on many an occasion, most memorably when he announced after one Luton game last season, that you would not see better football than Luton had just produced anywhere in Europe!!
@Wendoverman said:
I drive myself to and from games and the atmosphere after some games in the car home can be frightening...usually because 3CR are interviewing Paul Tisdale at length...
Absolute quality! Same here, as no one lives anywhere near me, except for the bit about 3CR since, due to technological ineptitude, I haven't the faintest idea how to get that on my car radio.
I’m a much worse travelling companion before the game than after I think (for long-suffering friends/relatives to and from the station/pub). Beforehand I can bore endlessly in a negative frame of mind with several hundred reasons why the game will be crap and we’ll inevitably lose. On the return from a soul-destroying depressing defeat to someone we should really have beaten I will bore endlessly about the 5 ‘good’ points from the game (2 three-move passes, a cross inches away from one of our forwards, a great save from our keeper and a throw-in that actually went to one of our players*) and be stupidly optimistic about the next game - until the morning of the game.
*obviously poetic licence for the final point. One day. One day..
@Wendoverman said:
I drive myself to and from games and the atmosphere after some games in the car home can be frightening...usually because 3CR are interviewing Paul Tisdale at length...
With the presumption that our prospective new owners read the gasroom ( if their ‘community ‘ values are to be believed) then the above should serve as a reminder that gates may increase if we were to build better relationships with BBC radio. I know we are on the periphery of 3CR but their coverage of us is lamentable ( even though Phil C is a better radio broadcaster than any of the Luton muppets in the studio).
@Wendoverman said:
I drive myself to and from games and the atmosphere after some games in the car home can be frightening...usually because 3CR are interviewing Paul Tisdale at length...
Well at least Paul Tisdale is not as insufferable as Nathan Jones was. Jones made me swear at the radio on many an occasion, most memorably when he announced after one Luton game last season, that you would not see better football than Luton had just produced anywhere in Europe!!
I actually miss mad St Nathan...and the impenetrable Scouse ramblings of Karl Robinson...seeing as we only get a mention just before St Albans you got to take your pleasures where you can.
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Meanwhile, god only knows what's going on at Oldham https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2019/july/17072019-club-statement/
I wonder what happens if Bolton can't fulfil the fixture? Can't be beyond the realms of possibility.
Match gets postponed. I doubt the League will award us the points.
Only a massive margin not to be in the bottom two.
The bigger worry is we destroy them with a feast of football and put in a 2-0 win, and then Bolton go to the wall later on in the season, wiping the points.
(Obviously a miniscule problem compared to a famous club going bust of course!)
There will be 2 other crapper teams.
I'd bet my gashroom fame on it.
Gashroom? Is that the porn version of the gasroom?
https://talksport.com/football/efl/574845/gordon-taylor-bolton-financial-mess-pfa/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Astonishing.
Some random company own one of their stands, and it's basically not economically viable for the club to use it!?
Amazing.
This Bolton thing could either be a huge advantage (play a bunch of new kids the first day), or a disadvantage (play a postponed game later in the season where the fixture congestion kills us with a small squad).
I will be gutted if the opening fixture is postponed, needless to say.
Got to feel sorry for Plymouth fans. Their fine club relegated down to the bottom league only for a basket case club to replace it that could easily go bust before the season starts.
If Bolton have enough ‘kids’ (or whoever) on their books, they should play the fixture. The league can’t just allow them to get up to speed. I seem to remember Weymouth being in a bit of a pickle a few years back, after they had overstretched financially - but still fulfilled their fixtures by playing their youth team for the rest of the season in the Conference, or whichever league they were in.
I expect Wycombe would lose attendance revenue too. Play the kids, Bolton!
Yes, there can't be any chance Bolton are allowed to postpone a game just because they have a bit of difficulty.
Otherwise, it's a precedent to buy a bit of time in different situations, perhaps when you have an injury crisis, or are a bit out of form etc.
“A bit of difficulty”. Understatement of the year @Malone. One of my matchday passengers who bailed out three or four years ago for the somewhat flimsy reason that the officials were so bad (plus ça change) is/was a Bolton supporter (we’ve not kept in touch because journeys home after matches were boringly/uncomfortably silent after I’d dropped the others off) and I wonder if I should give him a call. Probably not.
@micra why was there silence? Because he was boring or annoyed about Bolton?
You seem a tolerant geezer @micra, but that sounds a step too much even for you? Basically landed with a guy who bored you to tears?!
How long a journey?
How did you come to give this guy a lift?
His heart just wasn’t in it. He never got the bug like most of us (including the other two passengers). After I’d dropped the other two off I’d make comments about the game we’d just been watching (like you do!) and I’d rarely get much more than an “mmmm”. I hate silence (and I know I talk and write too much) but we are only talking ten minutes from Totteridge to Hazlemere so it was no big deal. He is/was a southerner but I think he spent time in the North West. Bolton were doing ok during the carshare years and his interest in them was not a factor.
I’m going to ring him now !
Sorry @Malone. Must have been laboriously tapping out my comments (in response to @peterparrotface) when you posted. 20-30 minutes to ground. Same for return. The other two, only one of whom is still “with us”, had plenty to say and were good company. I should have realised that there might be interpersonal difficulties with the Bolton guy many years ago when, chatting in Cedar Avenue one day I was being very critical of Barclays Bank. He’d been a manager (of a different Branch) and took great umbrage, as if I was attacking him personally. He suggested I bloody well switched to a different bank. I’d already known him, his missus and their two bearded collies through dog walking for a decade or two.
I got the answerphone!!
I almost forgot that Macclesfield are in a state as well
Could be out of the frying pan into the fire for Wilson then.
Maximum LOL @micra.
If a 20min drive with someone is too much after football, it really ain't working!
Having said that, sometimes, after so many years watching football and relentlessly drilling down every detail, I can quite comfortably sit in peace watching a game, and certainly afterwards!
I drive myself to and from games and the atmosphere after some games in the car home can be frightening...usually because 3CR are interviewing Paul Tisdale at length...
Well at least Paul Tisdale is not as insufferable as Nathan Jones was. Jones made me swear at the radio on many an occasion, most memorably when he announced after one Luton game last season, that you would not see better football than Luton had just produced anywhere in Europe!!
Absolute quality! Same here, as no one lives anywhere near me, except for the bit about 3CR since, due to technological ineptitude, I haven't the faintest idea how to get that on my car radio.
I’m a much worse travelling companion before the game than after I think (for long-suffering friends/relatives to and from the station/pub). Beforehand I can bore endlessly in a negative frame of mind with several hundred reasons why the game will be crap and we’ll inevitably lose. On the return from a soul-destroying depressing defeat to someone we should really have beaten I will bore endlessly about the 5 ‘good’ points from the game (2 three-move passes, a cross inches away from one of our forwards, a great save from our keeper and a throw-in that actually went to one of our players*) and be stupidly optimistic about the next game - until the morning of the game.
*obviously poetic licence for the final point. One day. One day..
With the presumption that our prospective new owners read the gasroom ( if their ‘community ‘ values are to be believed) then the above should serve as a reminder that gates may increase if we were to build better relationships with BBC radio. I know we are on the periphery of 3CR but their coverage of us is lamentable ( even though Phil C is a better radio broadcaster than any of the Luton muppets in the studio).
@bookertease so it's only the games we haven't played yet after the one you are about to watch that you can truly feel happy about?
I actually miss mad St Nathan...and the impenetrable Scouse ramblings of Karl Robinson...seeing as we only get a mention just before St Albans you got to take your pleasures where you can.