@flymofrank summed it all up best, anyway - simply a bad fit more than anything else. GA will not lose admirers at L1 level any more than Nathan Jones did after Stoke and Southampton.
This topic is barely a day old, hardly the definition of repetitive. Repetitive to you maybe. Probably because you don’t like it.
And my take that GA was wedded to long ball and not capable of change is narrow minded? And has a kernel of truth?
Sorry, but that doesn’t really make any sense.
If we stick to the facts, rather than personal opinions on Ainsworths style of play, we can see that Ainsworth himself has previously been on public record that he idolised John Beck and modelled his style on him.
Perhaps you don’t know John Beck. But he was the original long ball proponent. Whilst it is true the GA side and season that we were promoted to the championship, we played more football on the deck than ever before, the statistics for all prior years repeatedly had Wycombe as 24th in the table for all manner of stats including possession, passing etc. Lest we forget the phrase “possession can do one”.
So let’s not pretend GA was anything other than a long ball manager. That is his style of play. Everyone is football knows it, GA knows it, and the data shows it. It’s fine, it’s his speciality. No problems. It’s just not something I want to watch. But understand others are fine with it. Each to their own.
@HitAndHope i am of an age to remember John Beck fairly well and I am aware that GA has some admiration for what he achieved with that style.
I have demonstrated many times my ignorance of football on here (and plenty of other places) and have seen plenty of GA matches where we have played ‘long ball’ football.
But, and following up the ‘possession can do one’ quote, from memory GA went on to explain that his footballing philosophy was that once ‘we’ were in possession of the ball he believed in moving it forwards quickly. Dependent oh the personnel that sometimes meant lumping it forwards, but sometimes just moving it out quickly.
So I also remember us passing it quickly along the ground but getting it forwards quickly when we had the likes of Fred playing for us. (I actually think this is the type of football MB is aiming for at the moment, having seemed to move away from the pointless passing it around at the back we started the season with.
But maybe you were unlucky and only caught the ‘long ball’ games or are just too blinkered to see beyond your own stereotypical mindset (that I would hazard a guess GA liked opposition managers and fans to fall into).
Or maybe I just imagined some of the performances, for example the Mawson/Luton game where we played exhilarating football (or so I thought anyway).
oh I did take your advice and look up the dictionary definition of repetitive:
1. “the action of repeating something that has already been said or written.”
(My apologies by the way if you have genuine problems with your memory and unable to remember things you’d posted half an hour or so earlier).
Although it's unfair to call @HitAndHope a one-topic poster, only 79% of their posts have been slagging off Gareth Ainsworth, with the entire of the other 21% devoted to slagging off Rob Couhig. What a life to live.
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And setting up an account on the forum of that team named after your perception of his style of football and making 99% of your posts dismissing him.
@flymofrank summed it all up best, anyway - simply a bad fit more than anything else. GA will not lose admirers at L1 level any more than Nathan Jones did after Stoke and Southampton.
For sure. That is not in question.
Has anyone actually worked out what Gaz's interesting opportunity is yet ??
I think about three people have asked, but the ITK is playfully coy.
Two things.
Sorry, but that doesn’t really make any sense.
If we stick to the facts, rather than personal opinions on Ainsworths style of play, we can see that Ainsworth himself has previously been on public record that he idolised John Beck and modelled his style on him.
Perhaps you don’t know John Beck. But he was the original long ball proponent. Whilst it is true the GA side and season that we were promoted to the championship, we played more football on the deck than ever before, the statistics for all prior years repeatedly had Wycombe as 24th in the table for all manner of stats including possession, passing etc. Lest we forget the phrase “possession can do one”.
So let’s not pretend GA was anything other than a long ball manager. That is his style of play. Everyone is football knows it, GA knows it, and the data shows it. It’s fine, it’s his speciality. No problems. It’s just not something I want to watch. But understand others are fine with it. Each to their own.
Charles Reep was the original long ball proponent...
@HitAndHope i am of an age to remember John Beck fairly well and I am aware that GA has some admiration for what he achieved with that style.
I have demonstrated many times my ignorance of football on here (and plenty of other places) and have seen plenty of GA matches where we have played ‘long ball’ football.
But, and following up the ‘possession can do one’ quote, from memory GA went on to explain that his footballing philosophy was that once ‘we’ were in possession of the ball he believed in moving it forwards quickly. Dependent oh the personnel that sometimes meant lumping it forwards, but sometimes just moving it out quickly.
So I also remember us passing it quickly along the ground but getting it forwards quickly when we had the likes of Fred playing for us. (I actually think this is the type of football MB is aiming for at the moment, having seemed to move away from the pointless passing it around at the back we started the season with.
But maybe you were unlucky and only caught the ‘long ball’ games or are just too blinkered to see beyond your own stereotypical mindset (that I would hazard a guess GA liked opposition managers and fans to fall into).
Or maybe I just imagined some of the performances, for example the Mawson/Luton game where we played exhilarating football (or so I thought anyway).
oh I did take your advice and look up the dictionary definition of repetitive:
1. “the action of repeating something that has already been said or written.”
(My apologies by the way if you have genuine problems with your memory and unable to remember things you’d posted half an hour or so earlier).
Open comment to the Gasroom:
If I am becoming too @DevC like in my responses, please let me know!!!
(No offence meant Dev!)
You can’t reason someone out of a position they have not been reasoned into.
Damn. That’s a very valid and good point.
Dear god @HitAndHope is tedious.
Although it's unfair to call @HitAndHope a one-topic poster, only 79% of their posts have been slagging off Gareth Ainsworth, with the entire of the other 21% devoted to slagging off Rob Couhig. What a life to live.
Gillingham job is available
Owned by an American as well.
Shades of Brian Clough going into Leeds and trying to change everything - if even he couldn't do it no-one can.
Gillingham ITK saying GA was interviewed today. However, same ITK says Mark Warburton interviewed yesterday, which seems a stretch.
Evens to take the Gillingham job with many of the betting firms.
That would be a real coup for Gills!
Havnt they got a new wealthy owner now as well ?
I definitely think they have money to spend. It would be nice for GA to get in somewhere early and really have the summer.
Maybe they can afford a roof now
Or a proper stand that isn’t a temporary structure.
It's a named after Brian Moore as well, hardly a fitting legacy
It's a named after Brian Moore as well, hardly a fitting legacy
It's named after Brian Moore as well, hardly a fitting legacy
Any idea who it's named after?
It should have been named after Wet Wet Wet.
Brian Moore apparently
Wet Wet Wet actually did have a stand named after them at Clydebank. Sponsored their shirts too.