This subject has been flogged to death and I’m sure people are bored with it. I asked a poster if he had any evidence to support his suspicion that Hanlan refused to play and he didn’t. Therefore the speculation came from one person using a social media platform. End of story.
Was sat near some of the players not in the matchday squad last night. This included Dale Taylor who was walking perfectly freely with no visible issue at all. Would suggest that, as some have mentioned, his injury at Bristol was only a gash as opposed to a break which is good news. Suspect he'll still be out for Saturday but the following two week break hopefully should mean that that's the only game we miss him for!
Grimmer was also moving around on crutches with his lower right-leg cast up. As we already know, looks like we'll be missing him for a while which is a massive shame.
Craig Eastmond was also sitting in the stands. Shame we didn't get to see him play. Was one of my favourite players in the 2011/12 season and am surprised he never went on to play any better than League One football.
Probably the one highlight of a miserable night in the archaic cramped main stand seats was being able to watch the warmth with which McCarthy and Wheeler greeted Kashket with when warming up.
Of all the leavers Kashket is the one I'd most want to see really smash it.
You know there's a 20 goals a season guy in there. Just needs the right opportunity.
Absolutely. We’ve signed some great footballing technicians but we haven’t had that x-factor since Bayo and Anis left. Uche can give us that ability who can make something happen out of nothing that most of our other players don’t have
And that social media platform is no different that someone saying something down the pub with a group of their mates. A pub you happen to be in and a conversation you over hear.
You don’t need to interject every time there either.
If you don’t understand the difference between the written word that can’t be withdrawn and a spoken word that can be denied that’s your problem and I don’t need your permission to interject.
But part of the apparent uniqueness of the Gasroom among football fans sites, and one of the joys in my mind, is that it basically does (to me) have the feel of a pub conversation.
It’s one of the reasons why I tend to get slightly annoyed with mentions of bringing in legal arguments or debates about what is said and is written.
It was clear that the poster was just offering an uninformed personal musing on the matter and the subsequent debate should focus on the pros and cons of that opinion rather than whether they should or shouldn’t have said it.
If they had stated it as fact, the Gasroom wolves would have swarmed around them demanding to know the validity of their source.
Writing ‘I think Hanlan may have refused to play’ is slightly disrespectful (but a good point to open discussion in true pub style) but in essence not really that much different to writing ‘I think Vokes is past it these days’ (or whatever someone on here said the other day).
Anything mildly contentious I tend to moderate with the above. Doesn’t stop folk diving in (you know who you are) but at least there is a defence and it tends to petter out the ‘argument’ which is no bad thing.
Why would journalists ignore social media? It is clearly used to circulate huge amounts of information, much of which is newsworthy (albeit far more isn't). Their job is then to determine what is verifiable and worth reporting and what is BS.
They definitely do, James from the BFP often posts something saying "not proven but" or "possibly Wycombe related". He's by no means the worst, Twitter is particularly bad with no clear indication at times if there's any difference between dedicated rumour accounts, repeaters (often automated) and dedicated spoof accounts.
Think the best example was the daily fail publicly linking Didier Baptiste with a move to Liverpool from Dream Teams Harchester United.
Plus there are AI news articles scraped together from social media. Perhaps not relevant to Wycombe yet but interesting to see stories like this around AI ‘journalists’ unintentionally recycling and promoting fake news.
He's a keen lad, and we'd all much prefer more coverage then the dreaded Wasps fixated BFP days, where you'd get a tiny little Wycombe article buried pages and pages in, if you were lucky...
But, sometimes there's a lot of gubbins articles and they're a pain to read with all the ads and pop ups.
I used to work in a cuttings library...though it was proved time and again to be quicker and more economic than the lumbering dial-in newspaper researching computer systems that became available in the early 90s...cuttings library closed and they soon dumped having to check a number of sources for the one piece they managed to get of the machine at a snail's pace.
Nowadays, why bother double checking the Wikipedia references? Bound to be accurate. Same thing.
Other opinions on journalistic integrity are available.
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This subject has been flogged to death and I’m sure people are bored with it. I asked a poster if he had any evidence to support his suspicion that Hanlan refused to play and he didn’t. Therefore the speculation came from one person using a social media platform. End of story.
Lovely little story about Scottie K here. Well done to all on the standing ovation:
Ex-Wycombe forward Scott Kashket on his time at Wanderers | Bucks Free Press
Was sat near some of the players not in the matchday squad last night. This included Dale Taylor who was walking perfectly freely with no visible issue at all. Would suggest that, as some have mentioned, his injury at Bristol was only a gash as opposed to a break which is good news. Suspect he'll still be out for Saturday but the following two week break hopefully should mean that that's the only game we miss him for!
Grimmer was also moving around on crutches with his lower right-leg cast up. As we already know, looks like we'll be missing him for a while which is a massive shame.
Craig Eastmond was also sitting in the stands. Shame we didn't get to see him play. Was one of my favourite players in the 2011/12 season and am surprised he never went on to play any better than League One football.
Probably the one highlight of a miserable night in the archaic cramped main stand seats was being able to watch the warmth with which McCarthy and Wheeler greeted Kashket with when warming up.
Of all the leavers Kashket is the one I'd most want to see really smash it.
You know there's a 20 goals a season guy in there. Just needs the right opportunity.
You’ve put your finger on it…we haven’t replaced Anis. GMac is the only one who comes close to that ability to break down an organized defence.
…and with the slow speed we are playing out from the back, the opposition defence will be well organized.
Absolutely. We’ve signed some great footballing technicians but we haven’t had that x-factor since Bayo and Anis left. Uche can give us that ability who can make something happen out of nothing that most of our other players don’t have
Sutton away to Port Vale.
Well that’s some consolation
I think Newcastle Man City might might pip them to being on TV
And that social media platform is no different that someone saying something down the pub with a group of their mates. A pub you happen to be in and a conversation you over hear.
You don’t need to interject every time there either.
If you don’t understand the difference between the written word that can’t be withdrawn and a spoken word that can be denied that’s your problem and I don’t need your permission to interject.
But part of the apparent uniqueness of the Gasroom among football fans sites, and one of the joys in my mind, is that it basically does (to me) have the feel of a pub conversation.
It’s one of the reasons why I tend to get slightly annoyed with mentions of bringing in legal arguments or debates about what is said and is written.
It was clear that the poster was just offering an uninformed personal musing on the matter and the subsequent debate should focus on the pros and cons of that opinion rather than whether they should or shouldn’t have said it.
If they had stated it as fact, the Gasroom wolves would have swarmed around them demanding to know the validity of their source.
Writing ‘I think Hanlan may have refused to play’ is slightly disrespectful (but a good point to open discussion in true pub style) but in essence not really that much different to writing ‘I think Vokes is past it these days’ (or whatever someone on here said the other day).
“Could it be….
Perhaps……
Is it possible that…….
There is a chance………?”
Anything mildly contentious I tend to moderate with the above. Doesn’t stop folk diving in (you know who you are) but at least there is a defence and it tends to petter out the ‘argument’ which is no bad thing.
Why would journalists ignore social media? It is clearly used to circulate huge amounts of information, much of which is newsworthy (albeit far more isn't). Their job is then to determine what is verifiable and worth reporting and what is BS.
I was responding to someone seemingly bemused by the idea that "reporters" loiter on fan pages and lift their stories from there.
They clearly do.
They definitely do, James from the BFP often posts something saying "not proven but" or "possibly Wycombe related". He's by no means the worst, Twitter is particularly bad with no clear indication at times if there's any difference between dedicated rumour accounts, repeaters (often automated) and dedicated spoof accounts.
Think the best example was the daily fail publicly linking Didier Baptiste with a move to Liverpool from Dream Teams Harchester United.
Plus there are AI news articles scraped together from social media. Perhaps not relevant to Wycombe yet but interesting to see stories like this around AI ‘journalists’ unintentionally recycling and promoting fake news.
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-66266344.amp
He's a keen lad, and we'd all much prefer more coverage then the dreaded Wasps fixated BFP days, where you'd get a tiny little Wycombe article buried pages and pages in, if you were lucky...
But, sometimes there's a lot of gubbins articles and they're a pain to read with all the ads and pop ups.
Yeah, trying to read a BFP link on a mobile is not easy at all
Anyone who believes any journalist under 105 checks his or her sources anywhere but Tik Tok and Wikipedia is sadly misguided.
Should I add 'I suspect...' or 'I would not be surprised...' to avoid litigation?
I used to work in a cuttings library...though it was proved time and again to be quicker and more economic than the lumbering dial-in newspaper researching computer systems that became available in the early 90s...cuttings library closed and they soon dumped having to check a number of sources for the one piece they managed to get of the machine at a snail's pace.
Nowadays, why bother double checking the Wikipedia references? Bound to be accurate. Same thing.
Other opinions on journalistic integrity are available.
Let's hope the BFP don't pick your stuff up.
I reckon it'd be easy for a "reporter" to actually take your stuff at face value and start referencing it🤣
No journo worth their salt is running stories based on forum gossip
If only the BFP had journos worth anything close to salt.
The other week, they ran a story about a man exposing his 'genitials'.
But only 4 in his last 50 or 3 in his last 49. League games only.
I believe that's when you sign your name using your privates
Or
Goals scored in League One or above
Hanlan - 32
Mullin - 3
A John Handcock so to speak.
Actual LOL