They played with only two senior registered keepers last season and Marco Silva may not even name him in the squad if he chooses to register only two keepers again. He's also been on loan at a Spanish Second Division club playing in front of 7-8000 every week when he was at Spurs.
I am sure he will be thinking he does not want to spend a whole season stuck in the reserves or go on loan abroad when he has a young family. He's in his thirties now and I am sure will be looking to make his mark in the game rather than playing second or third fiddle.
Not nearly as crazy as Chelsea who last season had 41 players out on loan but were able to put out a full first team squad, a full U23 in PL2 plus U21/U20/U19s in their relevant leagues etc.
But that’s not how the loan system works. The club wanting the loanee negotiates with his parent club over paying a percentage of the player’s wages and the agreed amount is split between the two clubs.
I’m not sure about that Malone. Anyone coming to us on loan can’t be recalled so won’t be able to go back until his own club until January at the earliest.
Most PL and Champ clubs will want to have three keepers on their books and available for selection. So that may leave us looking at 4th choice keepers (or possibly 3rd choice keepers if they have the additional back-up and value them getting more game time over the risk of their 4th choice keeper having to step up and fill the gap).
That doesn’t leave us with loads and loads of options. Particularly as some of those keepers that might have been available are already fixed up, such as Reading’s Luke Southwood going to Cheltenham.
Its not an easy situation, which may be why they’ll opt to hang on for Bishop.
Apparently Dean Henderson came back from his Sheffield United loan and was told he was going to be Number 1 by Solskaer...but only made a handful of Cup appearances. Demanded a loan and obviously did not want to hear what the new bloke had to say. Be a pain if Bishop ends up warming the ManU bench in Cups rather than winning us promotion.
Interesting Ainsworth has been quoted in BFP that we have gone for a few and missed out because we are not going to pay over the odds. So Mr. Chairman, we are still ‘ little Wycombe’. Let’s be proud of that and be realistic.
I’d be somewhat wary about taking anything in the Bucks Free Press as gospel but of course a club as responsibly owned and managed as Wycombe Wanderers is not going to pay ‘over the odds’ (to use such a meaningless phrase).
According to the official website he's been training with the First Team since September 2020 with De Gea and Henderson and being coached by the First Team goalkeeping coaches. I wonder why he was given an improved contract 4 months later after moving up to the First Team environment.
Obviously not reading too much into this, but I did see on some link or other that Exeter were saying that they were interested in Bishop as well but couldn't afford to pay as much as we were allegedly prepared to pay. If true, and I don't think Exeter have money to burn any more than we do, it would suggest that Blackman is a slightly cheaper option than Bishop. Which, given where they are on their career paths probably seems about right to me.
I don’t disagree with your comments but Rob Couhig does need to tone down his overly ambitious statements with a sense of realism equal to the amount he is willing to spend.
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They played with only two senior registered keepers last season and Marco Silva may not even name him in the squad if he chooses to register only two keepers again. He's also been on loan at a Spanish Second Division club playing in front of 7-8000 every week when he was at Spurs.
I am sure he will be thinking he does not want to spend a whole season stuck in the reserves or go on loan abroad when he has a young family. He's in his thirties now and I am sure will be looking to make his mark in the game rather than playing second or third fiddle.
Not nearly as crazy as Chelsea who last season had 41 players out on loan but were able to put out a full first team squad, a full U23 in PL2 plus U21/U20/U19s in their relevant leagues etc.
I say we keep with Tyla and stay patient for Bishop. Tyla is raw and largely untested but until he messes up…
Not a chance, he'll be on at least double our highest earner for starters
Then we would have no chance with Manchester United's third choice keeper either.
See also: Juventus
But that’s not how the loan system works. The club wanting the loanee negotiates with his parent club over paying a percentage of the player’s wages and the agreed amount is split between the two clubs.
If we're being honest, there must be an absolute stack of keepers we could bring in.
There must be 200 or more keepers at clubs in leagues above us, with less than a quarter having a chance of a regular game.
Exactly, which is why we might be able to sign Bishop or Gazzaniga if circumstances and money allows.
I’m not sure about that Malone. Anyone coming to us on loan can’t be recalled so won’t be able to go back until his own club until January at the earliest.
Most PL and Champ clubs will want to have three keepers on their books and available for selection. So that may leave us looking at 4th choice keepers (or possibly 3rd choice keepers if they have the additional back-up and value them getting more game time over the risk of their 4th choice keeper having to step up and fill the gap).
That doesn’t leave us with loads and loads of options. Particularly as some of those keepers that might have been available are already fixed up, such as Reading’s Luke Southwood going to Cheltenham.
Its not an easy situation, which may be why they’ll opt to hang on for Bishop.
The stockpiling needs to be acted on. Clubs should have a max number of loaned players allowed, and a total squad size cap across all age levels.
So many league standard players get world class facilities but no game time, rotting in U23 leagues.
Apparently Dean Henderson came back from his Sheffield United loan and was told he was going to be Number 1 by Solskaer...but only made a handful of Cup appearances. Demanded a loan and obviously did not want to hear what the new bloke had to say. Be a pain if Bishop ends up warming the ManU bench in Cups rather than winning us promotion.
Bishop was on loan at league 2 Mansfield last year and is likely still on his first Pro contact, Gazzaniga is a senior pro with international call ups
Interesting Ainsworth has been quoted in BFP that we have gone for a few and missed out because we are not going to pay over the odds. So Mr. Chairman, we are still ‘ little Wycombe’. Let’s be proud of that and be realistic.
I’d be somewhat wary about taking anything in the Bucks Free Press as gospel but of course a club as responsibly owned and managed as Wycombe Wanderers is not going to pay ‘over the odds’ (to use such a meaningless phrase).
Of course we’re proud and realistic.
Rob Couhig’s philosophy from day one was to make the club sustainable. That doesn’t rule out being ambitious, but it does mean spending wisely.
In fairness, quotes from other people are one of the few things they do get right
He signed his first pro contract at Southend in May 2018 at 18.
Manchester United signed him in Jan 2020 when he was 20 on his second pro contract up until June 2022
Manchester United sign him on an improved and longer deal in Jan 2021 for his third pro contract until June 2023
Either way he'll be on a development team contract not a first team one
Wonder whether Jamal Blackman was one of them
Doubt it
Was that a guess?
According to the official website he's been training with the First Team since September 2020 with De Gea and Henderson and being coached by the First Team goalkeeping coaches. I wonder why he was given an improved contract 4 months later after moving up to the First Team environment.
Obviously not reading too much into this, but I did see on some link or other that Exeter were saying that they were interested in Bishop as well but couldn't afford to pay as much as we were allegedly prepared to pay. If true, and I don't think Exeter have money to burn any more than we do, it would suggest that Blackman is a slightly cheaper option than Bishop. Which, given where they are on their career paths probably seems about right to me.
He's not going to be on anywhere near what Gazzaniga is on....
same old stores , missing out on targets....whats the saying? paying peanuts
gets you ......
Nothing because peanuts aren't legal tender anywhere?
It has been acted on. As of next season I believe.
I'll have your cheese & onion if your going to be launching them?
I don’t disagree with your comments but Rob Couhig does need to tone down his overly ambitious statements with a sense of realism equal to the amount he is willing to spend.
Whispers of Mawson again