The really good thing with last night is that a lot of our moves didn't quite connect, yet we still scored 3.
I know we were playing a weak team down to 10 for 40+ mins, but after two league games of not knowing how and when we were going to score, that's a huge positive.
Their first goal looked quality, not sure I'd want to see their 2nd again, looked a right old mess.
Can someone explain the advantages of the goalkeeper two centre-backs goal-kick excercise that seems to be the new thang. Looks dangerous every time to me.
They are more effective for ball progression - but my hunch is the lower technical quality at this level largely cancels that out.
Can someone explain the advantages of the goalkeeper two centre-backs goal-kick excercise that seems to be the new thang. Looks dangerous every time to me.
Couldn’t be more in agreement. It’s a fashion that began in the PL and has spread through the divisions. I would rather have a 50-50 long ball from the keeper even if it means losing the ball in the opposition half rather than losing it just outside your own penalty box.
Well we were often disjointed and regularly careless in possession. Losing a player did arguably cost them the game. And if we do play like last night we are in for a tough season. So from my POV the FB group posts quoted above are fairly accurate.
I do think we have a hell of a lot of potential though. We could be regularly ripping teams apart by next calendar year. The amount of individual quality on show is outstanding.
If we play like we did last night we are in for a very entertaining if nail biting season and if we get the same outcome we are in for a very successful season.
They are more effective for ball progression - but my hunch is the lower technical quality at this level largely cancels that out.
I agree and there are also plenty of examples even at PL level where it simply doesn’t work. The better teams are adept at pressing high up the pitch to regain possession.
Cracking watch last night and my eldest certainly enjoyed his first evening game.
Not much to add to what’s already been said. Naturally, the mood would be very different had we given up an equaliser, or worse. But some encouraging signs.
Leahy in particular showed supreme levels of fitness, with countless tackles and blocks, as well as his influence further up the pitch. Low looks very loveable already.
It’s a new and relatively inexperienced side that will take time to gel. Potts and Boyes were imploring the crowd for more energy during some of the lulls and will certainly rely on that to get them through some of the tricky moments.
Alas, Gormania 2.0 is up and running.
Sidenote: what happened to prompt their no. 11 grabbing his nuts and gesturing towards the Family Stand/FA? He then proceeded to gob in our direction, with most of the spittle ending up down himself. Bizarre.
Someone in the crowd, allegedly ( I didn’t hear ) shouted something along the lines of…..”you couldn’t even push him over properly you f@ggot) “ , after Archibald attempted to push over one of our players.
I didn’t hear that but he gesticulated at angry bald fella in the crowd by making a belly gesture, putting on some imaginary glasses the scratching his balls.
Can someone explain the advantages of the goalkeeper two centre-backs goal-kick excercise that seems to be the new thang. Looks dangerous every time to me.
It's supposed to draw the opposition forward to open up space to break into, but as we saw a few times last night, if the opposition is better at pressing than you are at evading the press, it's extremely dangerous. I thought we were slightly better at it than Orient though.
Remember the time someone called Kevin Ellison a c**t and he just did a thumbs up and went 'Cheers mate!'? Bloke in the family stand was thoroughly rattled by it.
Someone in the crowd, allegedly ( I didn’t hear ) shouted something along the lines of…..”you couldn’t even push him over properly you f@ggot) “ , after Archibald attempted to push over one of our players.
I didn’t hear that but he gesticulated at angry bald fella in the crowd by making a belly gesture, putting on some imaginary glasses the scratching his balls.
He was quite wound up about it.
Sat at the front of the family stand near the halfway line?
If so, I know the angry bald fella you mean. He regularly shouts abuse at opposition players from the safety of the stand but looks like a heart attack waiting to happen. Not a great example to his kids, in more ways than one.
Sat at the front of the family stand near the halfway line?
If so, I know the angry bald fella you mean. He regularly shouts abuse at opposition players from the safety of the stand but looks like a heart attack waiting to happen. Not a great example to his kids, in more ways than one.
Can someone explain the advantages of the goalkeeper two centre-backs goal-kick excercise that seems to be the new thang. Looks dangerous every time to me.
I fecking hate that. HATE IT.
I wonder if they watch Match of the Day on Saturday and think 'sure, we could that'. YOU CAN'T. IT IS TERRIFYING. DON'T
I can confirm the description of “an angry bald man with glasses”
Didn’t Allsop once have the F@ggot word directed at him? He made a complaint to the club whose fans shouted it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Archibald lodged a complaint with WWFC.
Kevin Ellison now plays part time for City of Liverpool FC paired with a Head of Year 8 teaching job. Imagine him controlling a year group of 13 year olds!
This was my first game this season. Generally impressed, agree with most of the comments regarding best players. Some old failings such as not following up on the box. However, the last few minutes were fraught and I agree that we didn't press high enough, particularly midfield. At times we looked as if we were the team a man down.
Their no 22 seemed to dictate play, starting most of their plays off. Their most productive crosses came from the left so why did we not put someone else there?
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The really good thing with last night is that a lot of our moves didn't quite connect, yet we still scored 3.
I know we were playing a weak team down to 10 for 40+ mins, but after two league games of not knowing how and when we were going to score, that's a huge positive.
Their first goal looked quality, not sure I'd want to see their 2nd again, looked a right old mess.
They are more effective for ball progression - but my hunch is the lower technical quality at this level largely cancels that out.
This is good from one of our own: https://www.statsperform.com/resource/the-exploration-of-space-through-goal-kicks/
Couldn’t be more in agreement. It’s a fashion that began in the PL and has spread through the divisions. I would rather have a 50-50 long ball from the keeper even if it means losing the ball in the opposition half rather than losing it just outside your own penalty box.
If we play like we did last night we are in for a very entertaining if nail biting season and if we get the same outcome we are in for a very successful season.
Interesting. I liked the fact Vokesy was demanding players come up and put pressure on them when they were doing it.
I agree and there are also plenty of examples even at PL level where it simply doesn’t work. The better teams are adept at pressing high up the pitch to regain possession.
They looked like they'd never done it before
Someone in the crowd, allegedly ( I didn’t hear ) shouted something along the lines of…..”you couldn’t even push him over properly you f@ggot) “ , after Archibald attempted to push over one of our players.
I didn’t hear that but he gesticulated at angry bald fella in the crowd by making a belly gesture, putting on some imaginary glasses the scratching his balls.
He was quite wound up about it.
It's supposed to draw the opposition forward to open up space to break into, but as we saw a few times last night, if the opposition is better at pressing than you are at evading the press, it's extremely dangerous. I thought we were slightly better at it than Orient though.
Remember the time someone called Kevin Ellison a c**t and he just did a thumbs up and went 'Cheers mate!'? Bloke in the family stand was thoroughly rattled by it.
Really poor if true.
https://twitter.com/Shiroga84603925/status/1691520573761888256
I kinda love Kevin Ellison. Absolute bastard when he's playing against us but he plays it magnificently.
Sat at the front of the family stand near the halfway line?
If so, I know the angry bald fella you mean. He regularly shouts abuse at opposition players from the safety of the stand but looks like a heart attack waiting to happen. Not a great example to his kids, in more ways than one.
Yup, that’s him.
I fecking hate that. HATE IT.
I wonder if they watch Match of the Day on Saturday and think 'sure, we could that'. YOU CAN'T. IT IS TERRIFYING. DON'T
I can confirm the description of “an angry bald man with glasses”
Didn’t Allsop once have the F@ggot word directed at him? He made a complaint to the club whose fans shouted it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Archibald lodged a complaint with WWFC.
Ban homophobes for life, please.
Repulsiveness aside what a strange word to use. If you are going to get banned for abusive words at least they should be British.
'Errr...I was merely pointing out that he looked not unlike a bunch of dry sticks useful for bonfires, your Honour.'
Except for the dreadlock pulling incident when he was at Morecambe I quite enjoyed Ellison as pantomine villain
Kevin Ellison now plays part time for City of Liverpool FC paired with a Head of Year 8 teaching job. Imagine him controlling a year group of 13 year olds!
More likely these:
Don't listen to him!!!
That's gone right over my head
https://twitter.com/wwfcofficial/status/1643327527065100289
200 Muslims held prayers on the pitch this April 4th
This was my first game this season. Generally impressed, agree with most of the comments regarding best players. Some old failings such as not following up on the box. However, the last few minutes were fraught and I agree that we didn't press high enough, particularly midfield. At times we looked as if we were the team a man down.
Their no 22 seemed to dictate play, starting most of their plays off. Their most productive crosses came from the left so why did we not put someone else there?
Lots of positives but we need to improve still more that said a hundred percentage improvement .
It seems we have one in our midst