All this reference to Swansea City has brought the stench of the toilets at the old Vetch Field back to my mind, what a horrible night it was. Can't believe that was 28 years ago!!
As much as Kenilworth road is a pit ment for tiny people,It probably ranks pretty well against most grounds of that age. Late 90s Elm Park always springs to mind. When they were all just big crumbling terraces with a fence the word facilities would do most of them an undeserved honour.
Can only remember going to Elm Park on one occasion, mid 70s. Sat high up in the stand on one side. My father drove his car and got a parking ticket, we never went again!
Did Loftus Road a few times and always stood close to the electricity pylon (?) that was positioned to one side behind the goal.
Also did Watford a bit, used to park in the town centre - my mother would go shopping - and we'd walk down to the ground.
Must have been before football hooliganism became a thing because I don't remember ever feeling uncomfortable going to those grounds.
Hand on heart.....has anyone actually seen him play?
I would bet my left hand, (and right hand) that our coaching team know more about the new goalkeeper and Bishop than all of us put together.
It does seem odd though that there isn't a gk available on loan from the prem. What about Begovic, Foster, Martinez?
My guess is that the club wanted a permanent gk with a potential sell on fee. Maybe that's why a deal couldn't be agreed on Bishop. I reckon we wanted a permanent or option for permanent.
I was at the 1950 semi-final at Brentford in which Krupa and Mickrut played but unfortunately, Mickrut was limping from the start and was one of two players who were not really fit enough to risk. With no substitutes then this was taking a risk too far. Krupa was a tall centre half and Mickrut a real threat upfront when fit.
Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere but was there ever an official announcement from either club that Bishop was coming to us or was it always just rumour/social media/press expressions of interest and oriental whispers?
Nothing official but said in an interview "We were after one player and if you put two and two together you wouldn't be far off" words to that affect at the height of the speculation. As good as confirmed and nods from Journos and itk fans with contacts who would know.
Trained with us for more than a week I believe too, All drawn out to long in the end but understandable to some extent when you've invested training time and you don't expect to be dicked around by one of the world's biggest clubs.
But while he was training with us, finding a house in Marlow, the season about to begin and with everything all set to be signed...a club at our level should have had at least two other highly rated keepers and their agents on hold, just in case the deal feel through. Otherwise it's a shambles.
I do wish you would post on the fan’s Facebook page, your wit and command of irony/sarcasm would have some of the louder voices on there completely bemused.
Not sure how much of this is sarcasm tbh, just to add I'm not disagreeing the gamble hasn't paid off, and it's difficult to comment on how prepared we were with no insider knowledge of what else was happening or what assurances we received so I'll leave that there.
I agree, but I suppose there had to come a point where the deal was just limping while poor old Tyla was being slaughtered online and possibly by the crowd for a few more weeks. If anything was a shambles though I lay that at ManU's door.
@glasshalffull I struggle sometimes with comments on here (as no doubt everyone does at some points)...I suspect Facebook would ruin my view of the average football fan for me for good. (Which is also why I do not Twitter!)
@StrongestTeam the lowest form of wit is my default, sadly. I just cannot work out what the Plan B shriekers thought the club should have done when it looked right until the death as if the deal was signed and sealed...and which proven keepers Gareth and Dobbo could have kept sitting around turning down other jobs while waiting to see if - a deal that looked solid - came off or not.
As Lee Harrison has now confirmed that Bishop trained with the club for the week prior to the start of the season, I think it is fair to say that the deal was all but signed. If there hadn't been a deal on the table Bishop would not have been training at Wycombe. Wycombe have been utterly p'd about and shafted by Man U.
Luke Bolton looked excellent on the mid-week highlights show. Now at Salford and was going past the Newport full back with ease. Alex Pattison also looked good for Harrogate, think he was given the captaincy. Not sure if it's just a one off or permanent appointment.
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Nathan Bishop will also have his 12 month rental property in Marlow as a memory of the whole experience...
All this reference to Swansea City has brought the stench of the toilets at the old Vetch Field back to my mind, what a horrible night it was. Can't believe that was 28 years ago!!
How bad are we talking? Worse than Kenilworth Road?
Getting the hot dog passed through a cage, as the tea bar was segregated from the away fans, it was catering for.
That's my overriding memory of the Vetch field.
The Vetch will always be associated with our defeat there 48 hours after losing to Liverpool.
Wherever you are in the world an alarm goes off in your brain whenever The Vetch Field is mentioned
Oh yes! They could be smelt a good way before we even reached the ground. By comparison Kenilworth Road is just quaint.
As much as Kenilworth road is a pit ment for tiny people,It probably ranks pretty well against most grounds of that age. Late 90s Elm Park always springs to mind. When they were all just big crumbling terraces with a fence the word facilities would do most of them an undeserved honour.
Can only remember going to Elm Park on one occasion, mid 70s. Sat high up in the stand on one side. My father drove his car and got a parking ticket, we never went again!
Did Loftus Road a few times and always stood close to the electricity pylon (?) that was positioned to one side behind the goal.
Also did Watford a bit, used to park in the town centre - my mother would go shopping - and we'd walk down to the ground.
Must have been before football hooliganism became a thing because I don't remember ever feeling uncomfortable going to those grounds.
An electricity python would make it an uncomfortable away day.
Why is everyone so obsessed with Bishop?
Hand on heart.....has anyone actually seen him play?
I would bet my left hand, (and right hand) that our coaching team know more about the new goalkeeper and Bishop than all of us put together.
It does seem odd though that there isn't a gk available on loan from the prem. What about Begovic, Foster, Martinez?
My guess is that the club wanted a permanent gk with a potential sell on fee. Maybe that's why a deal couldn't be agreed on Bishop. I reckon we wanted a permanent or option for permanent.
Don’t laugh but I believe Begovic is being linked with Manure.
If he genuinely doesn't want to play football, then it's a good move for him.
Nice "little" pension for a couple of years!
I was at the 1950 semi-final at Brentford in which Krupa and Mickrut played but unfortunately, Mickrut was limping from the start and was one of two players who were not really fit enough to risk. With no substitutes then this was taking a risk too far. Krupa was a tall centre half and Mickrut a real threat upfront when fit.
Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere but was there ever an official announcement from either club that Bishop was coming to us or was it always just rumour/social media/press expressions of interest and oriental whispers?
Nothing official but said in an interview "We were after one player and if you put two and two together you wouldn't be far off" words to that affect at the height of the speculation. As good as confirmed and nods from Journos and itk fans with contacts who would know.
He was at the Burton game
Trained with us for more than a week I believe too, All drawn out to long in the end but understandable to some extent when you've invested training time and you don't expect to be dicked around by one of the world's biggest clubs.
But while he was training with us, finding a house in Marlow, the season about to begin and with everything all set to be signed...a club at our level should have had at least two other highly rated keepers and their agents on hold, just in case the deal feel through. Otherwise it's a shambles.
I do wish you would post on the fan’s Facebook page, your wit and command of irony/sarcasm would have some of the louder voices on there completely bemused.
Not sure how much of this is sarcasm tbh, just to add I'm not disagreeing the gamble hasn't paid off, and it's difficult to comment on how prepared we were with no insider knowledge of what else was happening or what assurances we received so I'll leave that there.
Still think we should have held out for Bishop
I agree, but I suppose there had to come a point where the deal was just limping while poor old Tyla was being slaughtered online and possibly by the crowd for a few more weeks. If anything was a shambles though I lay that at ManU's door.
@glasshalffull I struggle sometimes with comments on here (as no doubt everyone does at some points)...I suspect Facebook would ruin my view of the average football fan for me for good. (Which is also why I do not Twitter!)
@StrongestTeam the lowest form of wit is my default, sadly. I just cannot work out what the Plan B shriekers thought the club should have done when it looked right until the death as if the deal was signed and sealed...and which proven keepers Gareth and Dobbo could have kept sitting around turning down other jobs while waiting to see if - a deal that looked solid - came off or not.
I find Twitter fine because you can control what you see on there.
There's a nice little community of Wycombe fans on there I've found
As Lee Harrison has now confirmed that Bishop trained with the club for the week prior to the start of the season, I think it is fair to say that the deal was all but signed. If there hadn't been a deal on the table Bishop would not have been training at Wycombe. Wycombe have been utterly p'd about and shafted by Man U.
I have always hated Man U from a kid in the 1970s after this i hate them even more for messing us about.
To review our recent loan history with big clubs:
Man City: Loan us the Bolton kid, win a lot of silverware.
Newcastle: Loan us Jack Young, avoid relegation after looking dead in the water.
Man United: Mess us around with a loan, get thrashed by Brentford and sink to bottom of the table.
Just saying.
Great, now I'm reliving Luke Bolton all over again.
Luke Bolton looked excellent on the mid-week highlights show. Now at Salford and was going past the Newport full back with ease. Alex Pattison also looked good for Harrogate, think he was given the captaincy. Not sure if it's just a one off or permanent appointment.
Maybe they've both found their level.