Overall quality up. Prices up way beyond the increase in quality. A sub £5 pie surely has to be the mass offering. And sell them afterwards at a knock down price if you can't shift them.
Pricing a burger at the same price as Five Guys is not a winner in my book and after Funky Elephant ends this week I'll eat before I go down.
Unfortunately cannot make the Trust AGM tonight. @AlanCecil hopefully someone on the Trust has read through the last page or 2 on here and noted a lot of these issues to be raised with the club... pretty disappointing things like the food / drink value for money, unhygenic toilets are still going unaddressed.
I agree about the 50/50 too. Surely this is something the Trust could run and make profitable.
Hard to comment on food and drink as I eat before I go to a game, drive and when I have taken a drink it was a quick pint in Montys which seems to have gone. As for the programme I can see why financially the decision has been made but surely it is not beyond the wit of man to revamp or even go down the retro paper programme at a reasonable price route? I know The Wanderer is not glossy, picture rich and officially endorsed or even every game but if they can organise it for £1.50! I too miss the 50/50 as I can no longer quip 'Dont worry about the mortgage' to Mrs W before every match. (I did win it once so spent a long time chasing that high again!!!?) Hot water in the loos? Luxury!
I do risk a 'coffee' in the winter months. Risk being the word as the cold can make a man try any hot drink if the temperatures are low enough. Surely if a man with a little van or a cafe at a busy station can whistle up a decent latte...it might be worth offering the kiosks to a franchise? I caveat all of this with...I have never run a club, a business or been a purveyor of drinks and foodstuffs.
@Blue_since_1990 said: @ReturnToSenda yes maybe the programme sales have been well down but to be honest I am not surprised as the content was mainly adverts.
I bought the Rotherham away programme and that was really good. A superb review of our club and players, just what you want.
In my opinion the killing off of the programme is a real shame and another nail in the coffin of my personal match day experience.
The club killed the programme off. They basically made it something no-one wanted to buy and made it harder and harder to actually buy it. While the media team obsess over the yooff and their new tangled socials the more traditional market is ditched.
Has any other club ditched their programme?
Sadly the well meaning legacy of the programme hut naming has gone to nothing in a matter of months.
@drcongo said:
Seems to me there's a good opportunity for the trust to run the 50:50 and generate some operating cash for the trust.
I agree. The club canned it using the cashless excuse but I am sure it can be bought back by the Trust. They do, of course, already run an online draw to build the Quarter fund.
@peterparrotface Yes! I had a dialogue with Neil Peters about it and the poo got swept up, just around the time the Dashwoods would have been slaughtering the poor partridges, so the problem is in abeyance for a while. And I'm grateful for it - been able to resume my spot at the back of the terrace and get a better view of the games.
Me and Neil agreed to differ on the issue of prioritising pyrotechnics over stadium cleaning in the budget, though.
@DJWYC14 said:
Unfortunately cannot make the Trust AGM tonight. @AlanCecil hopefully someone on the Trust has read through the last page or 2 on here and noted a lot of these issues to be raised with the club... pretty disappointing things like the food / drink value for money, unhygenic toilets are still going unaddressed.
I agree about the 50/50 too. Surely this is something the Trust could run and make profitable.
Plenty of scope for questions to be asked at tonight's Trust AGM. Either from the floor or via the Zoom link.
DJ - I do read comments on here when i can and those on this post are noted.
The 50/50 draw disappeared with no fans and then with the desire of the club to go cashless.
The other point to make on affordability is that we are operating against the backdrop of rising costs in all areas of life, many of them more essential than football. I suspect a lot of us will have to make difficult decisions on where we spend our money through the winter and a £7 burger or a £3 programme are clearly some of the easiest cuts to make.
People seemed surprised by the low attendance the other night but we've had 5 home games in 18 days. I was surprised to learn that it's now £29 for an adult and a child in the family stand or £45(!) if they want to go in the upper tier. With prices like that it becomes very expensive if you don't have a season ticket and want to attend multiple matches each month - money which I think many people will struggle to justify at the moment.
Had a steak and pie recently in the Valley end. Thought I’d try it for market research and I was really hungry. Really nice pie…would I buy another one. No no no no not at £7. Maximum £5 is what I’d pay.
£7 for a pie or burger is too high, at most clubs a pie is about £4.50 and a burger about the same price, we do not sell any chips if we did they would be about £5,chocolate bars are £1.50. A lot of fans now eat at Lynn's just outside the ground and a burger is about £4.50, you can also get egg & ba on rolls for about £4,a cup of tea is £1. The quality is very good and cheap, That's why their is always a question outside her van before the game. The club needs to have cheaper food and drinks otherwise they will loose out.
The burgers are good now, that might be an old photo…but they are a bit too expensive. My son liked the Funky Elephant curry on Saturday…£7.50 I think and he thought that was good value.
The issue of the food offer was raised and from what I can gather from the answer it is being looked at and the club are working on it. I struggled to hear the full answer over zoom as my connection was flakey.
I raised the possibility of bringing back 50/50 by the Trust but they see their ball lottery scheme as a successor so it is not being taken forward.
Not a fan of the fireworks myself but can they use the synchronised pre match flamey things on the burgers instead of baking fans in the Whatever the Beechdean Is Called Now Stand??
@Wendoverman said:
Not a fan of the fireworks myself but can they use the synchronised pre match flamey things on the burgers instead of baking fans in the Whatever the Beechdean Is Called Now Stand??
They're doing them after the game. I just hope they have the sense not to if we lose or I might be too embarrassed ever to show my support again.
Comments
This is an excellent idea.
Please can someone raise it at tonight’s meeting?
Overall quality up. Prices up way beyond the increase in quality. A sub £5 pie surely has to be the mass offering. And sell them afterwards at a knock down price if you can't shift them.
Pricing a burger at the same price as Five Guys is not a winner in my book and after Funky Elephant ends this week I'll eat before I go down.
Unfortunately cannot make the Trust AGM tonight. @AlanCecil hopefully someone on the Trust has read through the last page or 2 on here and noted a lot of these issues to be raised with the club... pretty disappointing things like the food / drink value for money, unhygenic toilets are still going unaddressed.
I agree about the 50/50 too. Surely this is something the Trust could run and make profitable.
Hard to comment on food and drink as I eat before I go to a game, drive and when I have taken a drink it was a quick pint in Montys which seems to have gone. As for the programme I can see why financially the decision has been made but surely it is not beyond the wit of man to revamp or even go down the retro paper programme at a reasonable price route? I know The Wanderer is not glossy, picture rich and officially endorsed or even every game but if they can organise it for £1.50! I too miss the 50/50 as I can no longer quip 'Dont worry about the mortgage' to Mrs W before every match. (I did win it once so spent a long time chasing that high again!!!?) Hot water in the loos? Luxury!
I do risk a 'coffee' in the winter months. Risk being the word as the cold can make a man try any hot drink if the temperatures are low enough. Surely if a man with a little van or a cafe at a busy station can whistle up a decent latte...it might be worth offering the kiosks to a franchise? I caveat all of this with...I have never run a club, a business or been a purveyor of drinks and foodstuffs.
The club killed the programme off. They basically made it something no-one wanted to buy and made it harder and harder to actually buy it. While the media team obsess over the yooff and their new tangled socials the more traditional market is ditched.
Has any other club ditched their programme?
Sadly the well meaning legacy of the programme hut naming has gone to nothing in a matter of months.
I agree. The club canned it using the cashless excuse but I am sure it can be bought back by the Trust. They do, of course, already run an online draw to build the Quarter fund.
If there was proper coffee at the football, I'd make the club the richest in the division. Unfortunately, I don't think there's the demand.
@peterparrotface Yes! I had a dialogue with Neil Peters about it and the poo got swept up, just around the time the Dashwoods would have been slaughtering the poor partridges, so the problem is in abeyance for a while. And I'm grateful for it - been able to resume my spot at the back of the terrace and get a better view of the games.
Me and Neil agreed to differ on the issue of prioritising pyrotechnics over stadium cleaning in the budget, though.
@our_frank great news (about the poo sweeping, not the slaughter), will hugely influence which type of moccasins I wear on Saturday.
Sounds like you and Neil are a few weeks away from a successful podcast.
Plenty of scope for questions to be asked at tonight's Trust AGM. Either from the floor or via the Zoom link.
DJ - I do read comments on here when i can and those on this post are noted.
The 50/50 draw disappeared with no fans and then with the desire of the club to go cashless.
As @Right_in_the_Middle states, the Trust introduced its Quarters Ball Club monthly draw, this is open to all fans, not just Trust Members, from just £2 per ball per month and with a big cash prize on offer. 50% goes to the prize pot and 50% to the Trust to 'support the quarter share'
Go to https://checkout.square.site/merchant/MLE4NEDGQ0YM4/checkout/SCRAMK6I4UJB2EZK3HALCJJW
Hopefully this will interest @ValleyWanderer @Last_Quarter @davebevan @Lloyd2084 @PrinceOfCrowell @drcongo @Wendoverman who are all welcome to join in
The other point to make on affordability is that we are operating against the backdrop of rising costs in all areas of life, many of them more essential than football. I suspect a lot of us will have to make difficult decisions on where we spend our money through the winter and a £7 burger or a £3 programme are clearly some of the easiest cuts to make.
People seemed surprised by the low attendance the other night but we've had 5 home games in 18 days. I was surprised to learn that it's now £29 for an adult and a child in the family stand or £45(!) if they want to go in the upper tier. With prices like that it becomes very expensive if you don't have a season ticket and want to attend multiple matches each month - money which I think many people will struggle to justify at the moment.
Had a steak and pie recently in the Valley end. Thought I’d try it for market research and I was really hungry. Really nice pie…would I buy another one. No no no no not at £7. Maximum £5 is what I’d pay.
Thank you Alan, I already do the Quarters Ball but I certainly miss the 50/50 for the reasons given.
£7 for a pie or burger is too high, at most clubs a pie is about £4.50 and a burger about the same price, we do not sell any chips if we did they would be about £5,chocolate bars are £1.50. A lot of fans now eat at Lynn's just outside the ground and a burger is about £4.50, you can also get egg & ba on rolls for about £4,a cup of tea is £1. The quality is very good and cheap, That's why their is always a question outside her van before the game. The club needs to have cheaper food and drinks otherwise they will loose out.
S/ bacon and que
Will it pay repay my mortgage @AlanCecil ?
More firworks on Saturday. Terrific. Because that's definitely not going to get us ripped the shit out of by a packed away end.
For one or two months maybe? Prize pot gets bigger as more people join in.
The burgers are good now, that might be an old photo…but they are a bit too expensive. My son liked the Funky Elephant curry on Saturday…£7.50 I think and he thought that was good value.
Sorry, the burgers are not good now
I like a 50/50 and please bring back half time penalties in the proper goals, home and away end…my kids loved that.
Or fans shooting at the holes in a goal or a crossbar challenge for the fans…all good fun seen at away matches.
Quick update on the Trust meeting.
The issue of the food offer was raised and from what I can gather from the answer it is being looked at and the club are working on it. I struggled to hear the full answer over zoom as my connection was flakey.
I raised the possibility of bringing back 50/50 by the Trust but they see their ball lottery scheme as a successor so it is not being taken forward.
Quick question for @Shev or anyone who has attended sporting events in the USA.
Are/were matchday programmes a thing over there for any/all sports?
Not a fan of the fireworks myself but can they use the synchronised pre match flamey things on the burgers instead of baking fans in the Whatever the Beechdean Is Called Now Stand??
That 'burger' has gone slightly viral
They're doing them after the game. I just hope they have the sense not to if we lose or I might be too embarrassed ever to show my support again.
There will be the flame throwers in front of the Pre Sonos pre match as well.
Oh fantastic
Having a sweep through this thread
Food prices up
Food quality down
Food choices down
Parking prices up
Match ticket prices up
Time to focus on some of the positives in relation to the fan experience?
The floodlights are incredible