@glasshalfempty my life isn't as bad as you suggest. I kind of wanted to analyse how far we've come (if at all) and what it was that was so disheartening about that defeat. We weren't even bad. Sunderland were strong but its like we showed them far too much respect. Furthermore it was my sons first trip to Wembley so I remember it more for that. I was wrapped up more in the occasion and couldn't remember much about the game.
As it’s FA Cup w/e ….. what if The Wanderers (five times FA Cup winners) hadn’t drawn High Wycombe away in the 2nd round in 1878 and spanked them 9-0. Datchet Webb and his woodworking mates wouldn’t have watched the game and been inspired to form North Town Wanderers. The rest is history.
What if Crawley had not equalized away to Exeter with about 20 minutes to go in the third to last game of 17/18 (while we were getting spanked at home to Accrington)? We would not have mathematically been able to secure promotion at Chesterfield, as Exeter would have been ahead of us going into the weekend. Who knows how everything plays out!
I remember helping my son with a school project on the day Queen Victoria visited High Wycombe, on 15 December 1877, the same day Wanderers beat High Wycombe in the FA Cup.
She arrived by train from Windsor and travelled to visit Benjamin Disraeli at Hughenden Manor, going through a chair arch on the way.
Her train departed for Windsor at 3:30 pm, if I remember, and she probably would have been able view the match on the Rye as the train passed by, high up on the embankment. If she did, she might be the only monarch to view a football match in the town.
I need to try and confirm what time the match started, to be sure this could have happened.
Ha ha @Twizz, that sentence needed restructuring, I don't think a comma would suffice!
Actually, if I could go back in time, that would have been an interesting day to choose, although the first meeting at 29 Duke Street, the first meeting in the Steam Engine pub, and the first match probably trump that.
Nice work @Steve_Peart. I’ve never seen any history of the High Wycombe football team although they took part in several early fa cup competitions, as of course did (& continue to do) Marlow and Maidenhead.
Every season except 1910-11, when their entry was received too late by the FA. One day too late, according to a local newspaper, Bucks Standard I think.
I would like to do a history of High Wycombe FC, @perfidious_albion, one day perhaps. I haven't seen a detailed one published.
Their Wiki page gives their colours as orange and black horizontal stripes on the shirt, blue shorts, but red and navy in 1877-78, with no indication of that combination. That was their last season it appears.
All this talk is getting me interested in the history of HW and its football teams again @ChasHarps! It's a long time since I spent hours on end reading the microfilm of the BFP in the library.
Our resident expert on the club is Alan Hutchinson, who produced a very interesting video on the early history of the club, when he walked around the town visiting key locations. I can't remember if I have a copy, he gave a presentation one evening in the Vere Suite. That DVD could do with a reissue.
Imagine if High Wycombe FC survived as the main club, with a history back to 1871, and Wycombe Wanderers stayed as a junior club, or perhaps never started at all. We could be wearing orange and black scarves now, or maybe red and blue, and watching games low down in the pyramid.
No knuckledusters or steel toe caps were needed at the turn of the century. Stones in snow were the weapons of choice for the original Wycombe hoolies !!
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@thecatwwfc …taking one for the team today
@glasshalfempty my life isn't as bad as you suggest. I kind of wanted to analyse how far we've come (if at all) and what it was that was so disheartening about that defeat. We weren't even bad. Sunderland were strong but its like we showed them far too much respect. Furthermore it was my sons first trip to Wembley so I remember it more for that. I was wrapped up more in the occasion and couldn't remember much about the game.
As it’s FA Cup w/e ….. what if The Wanderers (five times FA Cup winners) hadn’t drawn High Wycombe away in the 2nd round in 1878 and spanked them 9-0. Datchet Webb and his woodworking mates wouldn’t have watched the game and been inspired to form North Town Wanderers. The rest is history.
What if Cousins had left after that Doncaster red card?
What if @glasshalffull hadn't gone for a pee in Norwich?!
What if @bluntphil was not a Wycombe fan??!!!
Love this thread
What if Crawley had not equalized away to Exeter with about 20 minutes to go in the third to last game of 17/18 (while we were getting spanked at home to Accrington)? We would not have mathematically been able to secure promotion at Chesterfield, as Exeter would have been ahead of us going into the weekend. Who knows how everything plays out!
What if that goal v Derby wasn't incorrectly flagged offside.
I think Horgan v Rotherham is probably the biggest one of the last few seasons.
Or what if David Stockdale had decided to wear a cap at Wembley?
I remember helping my son with a school project on the day Queen Victoria visited High Wycombe, on 15 December 1877, the same day Wanderers beat High Wycombe in the FA Cup.
She arrived by train from Windsor and travelled to visit Benjamin Disraeli at Hughenden Manor, going through a chair arch on the way.
Her train departed for Windsor at 3:30 pm, if I remember, and she probably would have been able view the match on the Rye as the train passed by, high up on the embankment. If she did, she might be the only monarch to view a football match in the town.
I need to try and confirm what time the match started, to be sure this could have happened.
Wow @Steve_Peart. On 15th December 1877 you were helping your son with a school project?
Great to know you've still going strong at at least 145yrs old!
Why weren't you watching the match at the Rye, or even cheering Queen Victoria in the town?
Was the little model train going round the putting green on the Rye in 1877 Mr @Steve_Peart ??
Ha ha @Twizz, that sentence needed restructuring, I don't think a comma would suffice!
Actually, if I could go back in time, that would have been an interesting day to choose, although the first meeting at 29 Duke Street, the first meeting in the Steam Engine pub, and the first match probably trump that.
That’s an extraordinary fact @Steve_Peart!
Nice work @Steve_Peart. I’ve never seen any history of the High Wycombe football team although they took part in several early fa cup competitions, as of course did (& continue to do) Marlow and Maidenhead.
Aren't Marlow the only club to enter the FA Cup every season since it began?
Every season except 1910-11, when their entry was received too late by the FA. One day too late, according to a local newspaper, Bucks Standard I think.
I would like to do a history of High Wycombe FC, @perfidious_albion, one day perhaps. I haven't seen a detailed one published.
Their Wiki page gives their colours as orange and black horizontal stripes on the shirt, blue shorts, but red and navy in 1877-78, with no indication of that combination. That was their last season it appears.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Wycombe_F.C.
You should do a chapter on people that say "High Wycombe Wanderers", I could put you in touch with a few.
All this talk is getting me interested in the history of HW and its football teams again @ChasHarps! It's a long time since I spent hours on end reading the microfilm of the BFP in the library.
Our resident expert on the club is Alan Hutchinson, who produced a very interesting video on the early history of the club, when he walked around the town visiting key locations. I can't remember if I have a copy, he gave a presentation one evening in the Vere Suite. That DVD could do with a reissue.
Imagine if High Wycombe FC survived as the main club, with a history back to 1871, and Wycombe Wanderers stayed as a junior club, or perhaps never started at all. We could be wearing orange and black scarves now, or maybe red and blue, and watching games low down in the pyramid.
“the behaviour of the spectators, who joined to the insolence of the town the coarseness and boorishness of the country rough”
Needed a new banner
No knuckledusters or steel toe caps were needed at the turn of the century. Stones in snow were the weapons of choice for the original Wycombe hoolies !!
I remember watching that on Wanderers World years ago. I spent a pleasant couple of hours with @glasshalfempty visiting the same places.
Imagine if hover cars had been invented on time. Access to AP would be no issue and we would be selling out every game.
I can’t believe @ReturnToSenda hasn’t mention his ski lift thing yet…
It will go over most people's heads ;)
Would have been great in the early 70s, direct route from RGS to WHS.
Would have needed a huge pylon at the bottom of Crendon Street though.
Is that a euphemism?
Ooh er missus 🙂