The ‘asking’ price is a moot point. As part of the contract extension negotiation at the start of the season Anis now has a release figure to initiate a move. I don’t know what that figure is however.
Must have missed how gossipping about potential release clauses for our prospects is in all of our benefit, clearly fuming though so will leave you too it.
I take it you are being deliberately dim. Spreading round info you've heard that could lead to our biggest asset and best player going on the cheap just as he has a breakout game on the telly and attracts wide interest, is probably generally frowned upon by most fan bases. If you were told you in confidence I'm sure they are delighted you are spreading it round.
It is if course your right to say whatever you like regardless of any consequences and mine to disagree. A problem with free speech absolutists is that many rarely know when to shut up.
You probably shout "man on" to assist opposition Goalies. And it's your right to do so.
Wow @StrongestTeam , sweeping conjecture and accusations throughout your diatribe, best I just stick to the original point.
Not sure if you follow the mechanics of football business? Hope this helps you come to terms with the inevitable, this is how it works:
he will go in the window (we need the money and his reputation is currently optimal)
hopefully sold but retained till season end but that is a negotiation point along with sell on / caps / etc clauses
his agent will already have informed every interested club what the release figure is - so the ‘leaking’ of this info on an obscure fans forum following an open public discussion with club management sees no ‘confidences’ broken and is probably neither here nor there
given the reality of the above, we have to create a bidding war to maximise the fee
hence why Gaz says bring the cheque book with £5,6,7k to set the bar high live on global television
interested clubs know this is a ploy but read it as we won’t give him away
Let the auction commence and may it secure out sustainability for a good while.
Oh, and you lost me with your tangential observations about the principles of free speech and shouting comments at players. Not sure they were pertinent to our debate, so don’t feel able to comment further.
Apologies to have filled others time with the futility of this debate but just couldn’t let the wild accusations go unaddressed.
If he has a realistic release clause then is there any point (for the club, rather than the player) of having a bidding war, given the amount we will make is capped?
@StrongestTeam Struggle to see where you're coming from in the above pleasantries.
Talk of this clause isn't coming from one of our management in the press, it's coming from (with all due respect), some absolute faceless nobody on a forum, buried on page 161 of a random thread!
Any professional club after Mehmeti will already be deep in analysis of the situation, very probably already having been on contact with his agent.
They won't be casually flicking through the gasroom and think STOP THE PRESS, a guy called perfidious albion reckons there's a clause! Hold off on the bid!
You'd like to think there's certain caveats to the clause (if it exists). i.e. if there's competition, we can accept the highest bid only, not the initial clause bid.
I think, (though may be wrong), if the release clause is met by more than one club, then we can choose the highest price over that or the player may choose which club he/she desires. Probably the latter as the buying club may offer him a higher wage rather than pay over the release fee?
I believe (mostly from Champ Man 20 years ago) that it’s the latter - which is the point I am making. The buying clubs would all offer us the same amount (the release clause fee) and then compete to win by offering the player more wages, meaning we don’t get any more if there are multiple clubs bidding rather than just one.
It's still to be seen whether there's one bid, let alone multiple bids.
But if there were multiple bids and the lowest one was the club offering the highest wages, the player would probably just refuse to acknowledge the other bids, leaving us out of pocket.
The basic point was that if people don't know about it we shouldn't be alerting them, and I'm aware that prolonging this goes against that, a careless word becomes a post then a tweet then a regurgitated web article. You are probably right in that a simple question to his agent would probably be part of the process anyway.
There's so many bits that are a stretch at best in the post higher up but I suspect that some of that thinking is how we convince ourselves we've done ok when we get £50k for him.
You'd hope since we've moved away from the small club punching mentality, through to higher aspirations, that any fees in mind will be set accordingly.
However, no doubt the crux of this is how much interest had already been generated in Mehmeti and how desperate we were to sign him up.
It may have been the only way we could get him to sign on in accepting a lower clause etc
I don't understand why people's default reaction on here is to disbelieve everything. The WUMs are clearly spottable and @perfidious_albion isn't one of them. Why would they lie about that?
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The last time I heard it was when I was a boy and that was a helluva long time ago!
Seemed entirely appropriate in response to a pretty puerile series of exchanges.
I see you managed to nip In before I corrected the spelling @StrongestTeam !
It’s a tall order for @malone to stop making this joke.
I think there's a lot of mileage left.
Anis Mehmeti appearing on this thread soon.
Driving up the asking price
The ‘asking’ price is a moot point. As part of the contract extension negotiation at the start of the season Anis now has a release figure to initiate a move. I don’t know what that figure is however.
Not sure that's the case, or why anyone would want speculate on that if it's known
It is the case, talked about today by a VERY high authority
Yeah, spread that around, well done.
Whatever next. Wycombe fan shares factual information with fellow Wycombe fans. No wonder you appear to be so angry.
Must have missed how gossipping about potential release clauses for our prospects is in all of our benefit, clearly fuming though so will leave you too it.
‘Gossiping’?
Information more like. What a terrible thing I have posted! And on a fans chat room as well, the audacity of it!!
Where will it end? There will be conjecture from Chairfolk asking about injury news, planning proposals, or potential signings before you know it.
I’m sure you would close down that nonsense in a trice @StrongestTeam , who needs freedom of speech anyway!!!
I take it you are being deliberately dim. Spreading round info you've heard that could lead to our biggest asset and best player going on the cheap just as he has a breakout game on the telly and attracts wide interest, is probably generally frowned upon by most fan bases. If you were told you in confidence I'm sure they are delighted you are spreading it round.
It is if course your right to say whatever you like regardless of any consequences and mine to disagree. A problem with free speech absolutists is that many rarely know when to shut up.
You probably shout "man on" to assist opposition Goalies. And it's your right to do so.
Wow @StrongestTeam , sweeping conjecture and accusations throughout your diatribe, best I just stick to the original point.
Not sure if you follow the mechanics of football business? Hope this helps you come to terms with the inevitable, this is how it works:
Let the auction commence and may it secure out sustainability for a good while.
Oh, and you lost me with your tangential observations about the principles of free speech and shouting comments at players. Not sure they were pertinent to our debate, so don’t feel able to comment further.
Apologies to have filled others time with the futility of this debate but just couldn’t let the wild accusations go unaddressed.
No more from me on this subject.
If he has a realistic release clause then is there any point (for the club, rather than the player) of having a bidding war, given the amount we will make is capped?
@StrongestTeam Struggle to see where you're coming from in the above pleasantries.
Talk of this clause isn't coming from one of our management in the press, it's coming from (with all due respect), some absolute faceless nobody on a forum, buried on page 161 of a random thread!
Any professional club after Mehmeti will already be deep in analysis of the situation, very probably already having been on contact with his agent.
They won't be casually flicking through the gasroom and think STOP THE PRESS, a guy called perfidious albion reckons there's a clause! Hold off on the bid!
You'd like to think there's certain caveats to the clause (if it exists). i.e. if there's competition, we can accept the highest bid only, not the initial clause bid.
I think, (though may be wrong), if the release clause is met by more than one club, then we can choose the highest price over that or the player may choose which club he/she desires. Probably the latter as the buying club may offer him a higher wage rather than pay over the release fee?
I believe (mostly from Champ Man 20 years ago) that it’s the latter - which is the point I am making. The buying clubs would all offer us the same amount (the release clause fee) and then compete to win by offering the player more wages, meaning we don’t get any more if there are multiple clubs bidding rather than just one.
It's still to be seen whether there's one bid, let alone multiple bids.
But if there were multiple bids and the lowest one was the club offering the highest wages, the player would probably just refuse to acknowledge the other bids, leaving us out of pocket.
The basic point was that if people don't know about it we shouldn't be alerting them, and I'm aware that prolonging this goes against that, a careless word becomes a post then a tweet then a regurgitated web article. You are probably right in that a simple question to his agent would probably be part of the process anyway.
There's so many bits that are a stretch at best in the post higher up but I suspect that some of that thinking is how we convince ourselves we've done ok when we get £50k for him.
You'd hope since we've moved away from the small club punching mentality, through to higher aspirations, that any fees in mind will be set accordingly.
However, no doubt the crux of this is how much interest had already been generated in Mehmeti and how desperate we were to sign him up.
It may have been the only way we could get him to sign on in accepting a lower clause etc
At the end of the day Rob Couhig will make the final decision on what is an acceptable fee (assuming there isn't a fixed release sum).
It was £5, 6 or 7 m rather than k that Gareth mentioned!
A big bag of cash, dollars preferable
He can mention eleventy billion. It has no reflection on what we'll get.
I don't understand why people's default reaction on here is to disbelieve everything. The WUMs are clearly spottable and @perfidious_albion isn't one of them. Why would they lie about that?
Yeah I caught a glimpse of him down Kingsmead a few times. Legend
146,017,320,000 Vietnamese dong will get the deal done (£5m)