I didn’t cop that at the time @eric_plant (and haven’t time to manipulate my device - if you’ll pardon the expression - to locate the relevant passage of play). However, I will take your word for it.
Lack of awareness of the importance of what particular players are doing off the ball could well be one of my shortcomings.
But, that apart (and an isolated piece of skill on the ball followed by a clever through ball in the first half) I thought Vokes was pretty anonymous as an attacking force. I wasn’t sure who, if anyone, was leading the line.
In stark contrast, David McGoldrick stood out as a front man once Derby had survived our initial (20 minute) onslaught. He received the ball time and again ON THE DECK and, after moving forward into our defensive third, brought others into play. He withdrew into midfield in the second half but continued to be a major influence. He’s 31 now but remains a force to reckon with at League 1 level.
I’m looking forward to the Stevenage game on Tuesday evening as I think the ball will be played on the deck rather more and, for the first season since the introduction of the Development Squad, there are several really talented youngsters to cast an eye over.
I know what you mean, always makes me laugh how they want to know how people's match day experience was when we win at home, but when we don't win they never ask
Indeed, @Raminpeace, it's become a bit of a meme here and on Twitter. Downplay Mehmeti to all around us so we get to keep him for a bit longer. Not a criticism of your perfectly reasonable observations at all - just a bit of a running in-joke. Thanks for dropping by.
Some more context to my thoughts yesterday on comebacks/givebacks. I looked at the two seasons after promotion from L2, and compared to last season and this:
Points gained from losing v dropped from winning:
18/19: 15-25
Despite this being a relegation battle season, we were actually ahead on points gained until that dreadful run starting around February, where we kept letting leads slip. Still, the -10 differential is the same as our 0-10 start this season.
19/20: 9-4
This one is the real surprise. I would have guessed more comebacks. There were only 34 games played that season before the playoffs, but it still means there were simply not a lot of comebacks in our games either way. We were basically taking the lead and holding on to it. The fact that we did not lose a single game in which we led, and only coughed up two leads for draws in 34 matches (Fleetwood and Blackpool) is quite brilliant, and reveals another legendary layer to that season.
21/22: 9-17
Despite coming 6th, we had a -8 differential, almost as high as the relegation battle season of 18/19. We also had several games where we were holding on 2-1 at the end despite taking a 2-0 lead and dominating, or rescuing a win from a coughed up lead (such as Taff's last gasp winner against Crewe in a game we dominated)
22/23: 0-10
No comebacks so far, and plenty of giveaways.
So, pre-championship, with a relegation battle included and an inferior squad talent wise, we went 24-29 (which is excellent considering it is easier to drop points than gain them). The past two seasons, with a 6th place finish and hopes of getting the playoffs again, we are a much worse 9-27.
Not to beat a dead horse, but there is definitely a trend.
I think @drcongo is just taking the full 10 days mourning period before returning to sort us unruly lot out. It’s all very Lord of the Flies at the moment…
Four tough games coming up. We need to get a reasonable return or I fear our realistic hopes of being in the mix at the end, could potentially be over.
He seemed surprised one comment could be construed as bullying yet the other not, when it was pretty clear one was an emotional reaction to being picked on.
Final stat and I will stop boring everyone. In the 17/18 promotion season we were 20-12 in points gained v lost. We can match that if we go 20-2 the rest of the way, thankfully!
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That is a very fair summing up of the game and I wish all opposition fans could be so sensible instead of resorting to the usual cliches and insults.
Indeed, a touch of sarcasm - we all know he's one of the best young players in the league, just don't go telling anyone.
I didn’t cop that at the time @eric_plant (and haven’t time to manipulate my device - if you’ll pardon the expression - to locate the relevant passage of play). However, I will take your word for it.
Lack of awareness of the importance of what particular players are doing off the ball could well be one of my shortcomings.
But, that apart (and an isolated piece of skill on the ball followed by a clever through ball in the first half) I thought Vokes was pretty anonymous as an attacking force. I wasn’t sure who, if anyone, was leading the line.
In stark contrast, David McGoldrick stood out as a front man once Derby had survived our initial (20 minute) onslaught. He received the ball time and again ON THE DECK and, after moving forward into our defensive third, brought others into play. He withdrew into midfield in the second half but continued to be a major influence. He’s 31 now but remains a force to reckon with at League 1 level.
I’m looking forward to the Stevenage game on Tuesday evening as I think the ball will be played on the deck rather more and, for the first season since the introduction of the Development Squad, there are several really talented youngsters to cast an eye over.
Thanks, exactly that. An unnecessary insult followed by an unnecessary swear word.
I know what you mean, always makes me laugh how they want to know how people's match day experience was when we win at home, but when we don't win they never ask
Indeed, @Raminpeace, it's become a bit of a meme here and on Twitter. Downplay Mehmeti to all around us so we get to keep him for a bit longer. Not a criticism of your perfectly reasonable observations at all - just a bit of a running in-joke. Thanks for dropping by.
Result notwithstanding, it was a pleasure to see so many fellow members of the Tickov family up at Derby yesterday.
As a family we really do pull out the stops when needed
Never an excuse for bad language in my book. The initial comment caused offence but the foul language was unnecessary in calling out the perpetrator.
what a knob you are , you need to grow up , I bet your no oil painting
why is he not being barred from the gasroom where other posters have been barred for far less worse than this imbecile has posted
Some more context to my thoughts yesterday on comebacks/givebacks. I looked at the two seasons after promotion from L2, and compared to last season and this:
Points gained from losing v dropped from winning:
18/19: 15-25
Despite this being a relegation battle season, we were actually ahead on points gained until that dreadful run starting around February, where we kept letting leads slip. Still, the -10 differential is the same as our 0-10 start this season.
19/20: 9-4
This one is the real surprise. I would have guessed more comebacks. There were only 34 games played that season before the playoffs, but it still means there were simply not a lot of comebacks in our games either way. We were basically taking the lead and holding on to it. The fact that we did not lose a single game in which we led, and only coughed up two leads for draws in 34 matches (Fleetwood and Blackpool) is quite brilliant, and reveals another legendary layer to that season.
21/22: 9-17
Despite coming 6th, we had a -8 differential, almost as high as the relegation battle season of 18/19. We also had several games where we were holding on 2-1 at the end despite taking a 2-0 lead and dominating, or rescuing a win from a coughed up lead (such as Taff's last gasp winner against Crewe in a game we dominated)
22/23: 0-10
No comebacks so far, and plenty of giveaways.
So, pre-championship, with a relegation battle included and an inferior squad talent wise, we went 24-29 (which is excellent considering it is easier to drop points than gain them). The past two seasons, with a 6th place finish and hopes of getting the playoffs again, we are a much worse 9-27.
Not to beat a dead horse, but there is definitely a trend.
“Far less worse” is a new euphemism to me but I think I’ll only use it in extreme circumstances.
I think I prefer it to “way less worse”. ‘Far’ and ‘much’ are much missed by some of us ancients.
I miss @drcongo 🥺
I think we all do @bigred87. But I think you’ll like @Chris almost as much.
Apologies if @drcongo is just having a well-deserved break from this roomful of baying blues fans.
I think @drcongo is just taking the full 10 days mourning period before returning to sort us unruly lot out. It’s all very Lord of the Flies at the moment…
Four tough games coming up. We need to get a reasonable return or I fear our realistic hopes of being in the mix at the end, could potentially be over.
Agree on your first point. Moronic swearing isn't something I ever want to hear or see in fairness.
But surely you can see that likening a young guy to an old politician over double his age is certainly quite a negative?
The guy was clearly using a personal insult to try and put returntosenda down, having had no actual intelligent comment for their debate.
Not really.
He seemed surprised one comment could be construed as bullying yet the other not, when it was pretty clear one was an emotional reaction to being picked on.
Fair play.
And take my tip - don't waste your time on the clear windup merchants on here. Block them = happier life.
I think @Malone is very athletic. Definitely would
You're getting tiresome now.
If you don't want someone to comment on what you write on a public forum, don't post on one!
No-one wants to hear your comment on his personality. You don't know him, and he as well as all of us aren't interested in your view of it.
Cheers babes.
I can match the tall, fast, stamina elements.
But I'm never matching the strong part of the definition in a million years though!!
In fairness, you got banned for repeated weeks of moronic posts.
In fairness like 🤣
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oZsY2i0Cz_k
Final stat and I will stop boring everyone. In the 17/18 promotion season we were 20-12 in points gained v lost. We can match that if we go 20-2 the rest of the way, thankfully!
His own reply to my post seems to suggest I was closer to identifying his intended meaning than you are here.
You've obviously tapped into his mindset then, as the way he worded it certainly wasn't your interpretation.
get your facts right ....I have never been barred . the administrators have double standards and are as consistent as many refs
Oh sorry, yes you're correct that your current user name has not been barred.
It was your previous one.