Very few people in the 16-30 age bracket smoke cannabis nowadays. You must only see the extremes.
I don’t smoke it - I don’t have a problem.
But to suggest that the ’biggest problem’ of young people’s mental health is the ‘cannabis epidemic’ (lol) is due to ‘normalising cannabis’.
That’s factually incorrect.
I’m not going to write paragraphs here, but I’d urge you to consider the fact that the earnings of most 25-30 year olds in Bucks means they can only consider moving out of their parent(s) if they share disgusting student-style accommodation with randomers on spareroom.com. Toxic social media is by far the biggest cause of poor MH. Not cannabis.
I wasn’t there so I can’t say with certainty, but I would be very surprised if this happened as claimed. Gareth treats all his players with the utmost respect and professionalism.
I agree. Such statements from a friend of ..... lack context.
If GA and TD were sharing a joke at the end of the Burton match, and TD light heartedly said, "Right Boss, job done, Make me No 1 keeper for the season." Then the response is fine.
If it is a serious one to one meeting in the manager's office, then it is unacceptable.
Also, I would suggest that if Tyla Dickinson felt hurt by the managers reaction and said that to a friend, and that person goes on to spread the story, then they are not a 'good friend'.
I am looking forward to Saturday verses Bolton with Tyla Dickinson as keeper. He did all he was required to do against Burton, and cannot be blamed for not being seriously tested, so deserves to continue as No. 1 choice.
I heard someone heard Tyla had been eating Walkers Cheese and Onion crisps and had offered one to Gareth and the gaffer said: I hate crisps. You're dropped.
I wouldn't say he did all that was required - his goal-kicks were all over the place (although his drop-kicks were generally fine). Hopefully we have Bishop/alternative in goal on Sat.
@ReturnToSenda. What the hell have you got against the lad? He made a few minor mistakes, all players do. Without the opportunity to play, gain experience and improve he might as well retire now.
Mehmeti made plenty of mistakes in his first few games, I didn't see the same number of calls to drop him, in fact, the total opposite.
I back the manager and coaching team and the players they choose to have at the club, and play at each level.
Dude, chill. Assessing a player's performance objectively ≠ a personal attack on that player. He might be great in time, but it's hardly radical to suggest that a promotion-targeting team (sorry @micra, club) should have replaced the quality goalkeeper they lost by the second game of the season.
Last season, Tyla Dickinson was regarded as good enough to be in the first team squad, and therefore ready to take over at any time he was required, including at Wembley. He cannot be blamed because that occasion never materialised. Now that occasion has materialised, and he has got his opportunity, because his manager and coaching team who work with his daily regard him as being ready. They know more about him than I do, or any other fan.
I trust the management and coaching team to make the right choices, because they have earned my trust over many years, by consistently bringing success to this club. I trust them to be making the right choices now.
Dickinson has to play as things stand - obviously - but if the coaching staff thought he was ready to be number 1, we wouldn't be trying to sign a new number 1. I'm still not quite sure how simply pointing out some facts about his kicking provoked such a volatile reaction, but c'est la Gasroom.
Dickinson did enough. Some of his kicking was excellent in quality. Some of it was very poor. The range in quality of his deliveries was wider than most League 1 goalkeepers - the established GKs were a lot more consistent in their display of quality. That’s entirely in line with what you’d expect from a youth team keeper.
Incredibly difficult to evaluate anything more than his kicking based on Saturday’s performance. He had very little to do.
He hardly looked like a fish out of water though.
You’d be a lot more confident with Dickinson than with Lynch, Richardson etc.
Of course we’ll bring in a #1. Beginning to think it won’t be Bishop now.
Wouldn't necessarily mind Dickinson starting again on Saturday, although we’d want a goalkeeper (with suitable scouting / background check) in as soon as sensible. That feels obvious.
The Mehmeti comparison is silly btw. You can't 'test out' a young GK like you would a young AM. I've not seen anyone be overly critical of Dickinson either - I think that's a bit of a fantasy some people have got into their heads so they can feel proud about how much they're getting behind him (even though everyone was on Saturday as far as I could see/hear).
I have never seen anything from the club that officially confirms that Nathan Bishop was ever a target. It has been a case of speculation based on speculation based on rumour. He may or may not have been a target, he may or may not still be a target. I have never suggested that Wycombe will not sign another keeper, whether it be as No 1. , backup, or as equal status, and allow form to decide who is No. 1.
I thought this was a club that was proud to give young players the opportunity to prove themselves, or does that only apply to outfield players
How is it silly? How do you test out a young keeper if you don't play him? You have not seen anyone be over critical of Tyla Dickinson? Some people, yourself included, dismissed him as not being good enough to play last Saturday, and have shown no more encouragement since. How much more critical and negative can people be than that?
All I am asking is that people show confidence in the choices made by the management, and give a young player (of any position) the chance to prove himself worthy when he has been given the opportunity.
@bluenotes Did I dismiss him? Or did I simply point out that we shouldn't have been in a situation where we had to throw an untested youngster in at the deep end on the opening day of the season? And having watched him on Saturday, I've objectively assessed his performance (well, his kicking because he didn't have anything else to do beyond one routine gather). It's not about being positive or negative.
On a side note-and please don’t take this personally Return to Senda- ‘Dude, chill’ are two words I never thought I’d see on here. Never mind our development squad, the Gasroom youth policy is obviously in good hands!
Just for clarity, my own tweets from before the line-up was even announced on Saturday:
"Just for the record, it is possible to get behind Dickinson *and* be annoyed at the situation which means he'll need to play today.
"That said, it's pretty natural to have reservations about a goalkeeper who's never played above the eighth tier starting the season opener for League One promotion hopefuls..."
Of course I have confidence in the choices made by the management, but this isn't a situation they wanted to be in.
We'll all support the young lad every minute he's on the pitch.
But if there's a prospect of bringing a quality keeper in, when we have aspirations of being a big player in this division, we surely have to aim for that.
As for the Mehmeti comparison, you can't give a goalkeeper 15/20 mins here and there like you can an outfield player. It's a totally different development process.
I do think, from everything that had been written and said that it was an open secret that the plan was for Bishop to sign with us on loan. This hasn't happened, for whatever reason (and I think it is now exceedingly unlikely to happen) but a new goalkeeper will* be brought in before the transfer deadline (I actually think possibly by Friday) as first choice.
This isn't to say that Dickinson may not have the ability to be number one (and its entirely possible that he could end the season as that), but he is inexperienced and unproven to deliver week in week out and whilst I have no doubt that GA and Dobson do have faith in his abilities, goalkeeper is such a specialist position if he was to suffer a loss of confidence (and it can happen to anyone - I seem to remember Rocky suffering such a spell 3 or 4 seasons back) we would be left extremely vulnerable. Using your own example: "Mehmeti made plenty of mistakes in his first few games." These probably cost us only potential goals for (although I do seem to remember one misplaced pass leading directly to an opposition goal), but for the goalkeeper these are much more likely to lead to goals against.
If we were blindsided by the hitch that stopped the (alleged) Bishop deal however, we may be starting from a fairly poor position so it may take a little while until the right fit is found. Until they are I am sure that the management team will trust Dickinson.
I doubt anyone on here (with the obvious exception) wants Dickinson to fail but I think the vast majority of us would be more comfortable if we did have a relatively experienced and proven goalkeeper in our squad.
*If we don't bring one in (once my raised eyebrow is surgically replaced to normal) I shall probably become a card-carrying member of the 'angry' brigade on here. (Well more realistically the 'slightly peeved' brigade).
I'm happy for the club to bring in the best quality players it can get (within financial constraints) for every position. I just don't understand how a young goalkeeper was deemed unworthy of making his debut, based on nothing more than he hadn't made his debut.
When GA said he was happy with the squad he had got to start the season, but would like to bring in a couple more players, I took that as meaning he had confidence in the players he had got, goalkeeper included, but would still look to strengthen the squad.
Let's not forget that when Stockdale arrived he was far from fit, and anyone who comes in, as free agent or loan is not No.1 choice elsewhere, and I doubt that anyones first choice keeper would be available at an affordable price.
We pretty desperately need a goal keeper and a centre back if we're going to be serious contenders this season.... Anyone suggesting otherwise is burying their head in the sand
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Of course it’s a problem. But its “weekly use has more than halved since 2002, down to 7.3%.” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47950785
Very few people in the 16-30 age bracket smoke cannabis nowadays. You must only see the extremes.
I don’t smoke it - I don’t have a problem.
But to suggest that the ’biggest problem’ of young people’s mental health is the ‘cannabis epidemic’ (lol) is due to ‘normalising cannabis’.
That’s factually incorrect.
I’m not going to write paragraphs here, but I’d urge you to consider the fact that the earnings of most 25-30 year olds in Bucks means they can only consider moving out of their parent(s) if they share disgusting student-style accommodation with randomers on spareroom.com. Toxic social media is by far the biggest cause of poor MH. Not cannabis.
Once again, you’re clearly out of touch.
I wasn’t there so I can’t say with certainty, but I would be very surprised if this happened as claimed. Gareth treats all his players with the utmost respect and professionalism.
I agree. Such statements from a friend of ..... lack context.
If GA and TD were sharing a joke at the end of the Burton match, and TD light heartedly said, "Right Boss, job done, Make me No 1 keeper for the season." Then the response is fine.
If it is a serious one to one meeting in the manager's office, then it is unacceptable.
Also, I would suggest that if Tyla Dickinson felt hurt by the managers reaction and said that to a friend, and that person goes on to spread the story, then they are not a 'good friend'.
I am looking forward to Saturday verses Bolton with Tyla Dickinson as keeper. He did all he was required to do against Burton, and cannot be blamed for not being seriously tested, so deserves to continue as No. 1 choice.
I heard someone heard Tyla had been eating Walkers Cheese and Onion crisps and had offered one to Gareth and the gaffer said: I hate crisps. You're dropped.
Appalling.
I wouldn't say he did all that was required - his goal-kicks were all over the place (although his drop-kicks were generally fine). Hopefully we have Bishop/alternative in goal on Sat.
@ReturnToSenda. What the hell have you got against the lad? He made a few minor mistakes, all players do. Without the opportunity to play, gain experience and improve he might as well retire now.
Mehmeti made plenty of mistakes in his first few games, I didn't see the same number of calls to drop him, in fact, the total opposite.
I back the manager and coaching team and the players they choose to have at the club, and play at each level.
I hope Dickinson hasn't read all the comments about his ability or lack thereof.
It has not been the usual encouraging welcome given to a promising young player.
you genuinely think he is ready to be our number 1? Anis was blooded in not a starter at 1st....Tyler is not ready for the number 1 role ...
Dude, chill. Assessing a player's performance objectively ≠ a personal attack on that player. He might be great in time, but it's hardly radical to suggest that a promotion-targeting team (sorry @micra, club) should have replaced the quality goalkeeper they lost by the second game of the season.
Please spell his name properly or you will get @micra on your case.
Last season, Tyla Dickinson was regarded as good enough to be in the first team squad, and therefore ready to take over at any time he was required, including at Wembley. He cannot be blamed because that occasion never materialised. Now that occasion has materialised, and he has got his opportunity, because his manager and coaching team who work with his daily regard him as being ready. They know more about him than I do, or any other fan.
I trust the management and coaching team to make the right choices, because they have earned my trust over many years, by consistently bringing success to this club. I trust them to be making the right choices now.
Dickinson has to play as things stand - obviously - but if the coaching staff thought he was ready to be number 1, we wouldn't be trying to sign a new number 1. I'm still not quite sure how simply pointing out some facts about his kicking provoked such a volatile reaction, but c'est la Gasroom.
Dickinson did enough. Some of his kicking was excellent in quality. Some of it was very poor. The range in quality of his deliveries was wider than most League 1 goalkeepers - the established GKs were a lot more consistent in their display of quality. That’s entirely in line with what you’d expect from a youth team keeper.
Incredibly difficult to evaluate anything more than his kicking based on Saturday’s performance. He had very little to do.
He hardly looked like a fish out of water though.
You’d be a lot more confident with Dickinson than with Lynch, Richardson etc.
Of course we’ll bring in a #1. Beginning to think it won’t be Bishop now.
Wouldn't necessarily mind Dickinson starting again on Saturday, although we’d want a goalkeeper (with suitable scouting / background check) in as soon as sensible. That feels obvious.
The Mehmeti comparison is silly btw. You can't 'test out' a young GK like you would a young AM. I've not seen anyone be overly critical of Dickinson either - I think that's a bit of a fantasy some people have got into their heads so they can feel proud about how much they're getting behind him (even though everyone was on Saturday as far as I could see/hear).
I have never seen anything from the club that officially confirms that Nathan Bishop was ever a target. It has been a case of speculation based on speculation based on rumour. He may or may not have been a target, he may or may not still be a target. I have never suggested that Wycombe will not sign another keeper, whether it be as No 1. , backup, or as equal status, and allow form to decide who is No. 1.
I thought this was a club that was proud to give young players the opportunity to prove themselves, or does that only apply to outfield players
How is it silly? How do you test out a young keeper if you don't play him? You have not seen anyone be over critical of Tyla Dickinson? Some people, yourself included, dismissed him as not being good enough to play last Saturday, and have shown no more encouragement since. How much more critical and negative can people be than that?
All I am asking is that people show confidence in the choices made by the management, and give a young player (of any position) the chance to prove himself worthy when he has been given the opportunity.
@bluenotes Did I dismiss him? Or did I simply point out that we shouldn't have been in a situation where we had to throw an untested youngster in at the deep end on the opening day of the season? And having watched him on Saturday, I've objectively assessed his performance (well, his kicking because he didn't have anything else to do beyond one routine gather). It's not about being positive or negative.
On a side note-and please don’t take this personally Return to Senda- ‘Dude, chill’ are two words I never thought I’d see on here. Never mind our development squad, the Gasroom youth policy is obviously in good hands!
Just for clarity, my own tweets from before the line-up was even announced on Saturday:
"Just for the record, it is possible to get behind Dickinson *and* be annoyed at the situation which means he'll need to play today.
"That said, it's pretty natural to have reservations about a goalkeeper who's never played above the eighth tier starting the season opener for League One promotion hopefuls..."
Of course I have confidence in the choices made by the management, but this isn't a situation they wanted to be in.
We'll all support the young lad every minute he's on the pitch.
But if there's a prospect of bringing a quality keeper in, when we have aspirations of being a big player in this division, we surely have to aim for that.
I'm not even that young!
You are compared to most Gasroom regulars!
As for the Mehmeti comparison, you can't give a goalkeeper 15/20 mins here and there like you can an outfield player. It's a totally different development process.
Anyway, Tyla played on Saturday, we won and kept a clean sheet. Which is all good.
I do think, from everything that had been written and said that it was an open secret that the plan was for Bishop to sign with us on loan. This hasn't happened, for whatever reason (and I think it is now exceedingly unlikely to happen) but a new goalkeeper will* be brought in before the transfer deadline (I actually think possibly by Friday) as first choice.
This isn't to say that Dickinson may not have the ability to be number one (and its entirely possible that he could end the season as that), but he is inexperienced and unproven to deliver week in week out and whilst I have no doubt that GA and Dobson do have faith in his abilities, goalkeeper is such a specialist position if he was to suffer a loss of confidence (and it can happen to anyone - I seem to remember Rocky suffering such a spell 3 or 4 seasons back) we would be left extremely vulnerable. Using your own example: "Mehmeti made plenty of mistakes in his first few games." These probably cost us only potential goals for (although I do seem to remember one misplaced pass leading directly to an opposition goal), but for the goalkeeper these are much more likely to lead to goals against.
If we were blindsided by the hitch that stopped the (alleged) Bishop deal however, we may be starting from a fairly poor position so it may take a little while until the right fit is found. Until they are I am sure that the management team will trust Dickinson.
I doubt anyone on here (with the obvious exception) wants Dickinson to fail but I think the vast majority of us would be more comfortable if we did have a relatively experienced and proven goalkeeper in our squad.
*If we don't bring one in (once my raised eyebrow is surgically replaced to normal) I shall probably become a card-carrying member of the 'angry' brigade on here. (Well more realistically the 'slightly peeved' brigade).
I'm happy for the club to bring in the best quality players it can get (within financial constraints) for every position. I just don't understand how a young goalkeeper was deemed unworthy of making his debut, based on nothing more than he hadn't made his debut.
When GA said he was happy with the squad he had got to start the season, but would like to bring in a couple more players, I took that as meaning he had confidence in the players he had got, goalkeeper included, but would still look to strengthen the squad.
Let's not forget that when Stockdale arrived he was far from fit, and anyone who comes in, as free agent or loan is not No.1 choice elsewhere, and I doubt that anyones first choice keeper would be available at an affordable price.
Who said he was unworthy of making his debut?
Anybody who suggested he should not have played last Saturday because he didn't have enough experience.
I've not seen anyone suggest that, but fair enough.
We pretty desperately need a goal keeper and a centre back if we're going to be serious contenders this season.... Anyone suggesting otherwise is burying their head in the sand