I have some sympathy with this view but which of the examples I gave do you think are fear mongering rather than observable and measurable phenomena?
The climate crisis, increasing inequality and social mobility, no chance of buying a house, governments who cheat and lie, worsening standard of living, a lowering of life expectancy, war in Europe, loss of ability to live, study and work abroad etc etc.
It’s all very well for Boomers and Gen X to tell kids to cheer up but the poor sods are having to clear up the mess we’ve left them.
The advertising industry has a lot to answer for too, but I’ll leave Bill Hicks to cover that one off.
I was watching a programme about Queens of Song the other evening and it included a video of Beyoncé Knowles. The box providing information about the singer, date of recoding etc mentioned that, at the time (whenever that was), she was said to be earning more than any other black singer.
I’m not really into Beyoncé’s style of music and I had little or no idea what she looked like but I would have described her appearance (café au lait or lighter) as ‘mixed race’. However, after reading some of the comments on this thread, spawned by Nathan Bishop’s no-show, I’m now confused (a) as to how pale someone can be and still be described as black and (b) how dodgy it could be to describe someone as ‘mixed race’ without knowing the ethnicity of their parents.
Back to the Queens of Song. I’ve only watched 20 minutes or so and I’ve not been too excited but I was stopped in my tracks (as it were) by a genuine Queen of Song (Queen of Soul, indeed). Aretha Franklin singing “I say a little Prayer” in 1970. Brilliant.
@micra And to further complicate things, there is personal preference.
Obama (who has one parent who is white and one who is black, from Kenya) self-identifies as black rather than mixed race; but Megan, Duchess of Sussex (who has one parent who is white and who is black, from the US) self-identifies as mixed race.
Mrs W was an ITU nurse and worked in school nursing and health visiting at the end of her NHS career of 30 odd years. She is adamant that the increase in cannabis and cocaine use from much earlier ages was having a significant impact on youth mental health issues and that was across all classes. Throw in Social media and its like petrol on your Tesco barbeque. Like gambling, I think the people who like a flutter cannot see the harm that all the nosey miseries looking for trouble might.
I hate the smell and don't smoke it myself, but I don't see it as a problem. I think it's only really seen as one because it's illegal - which it shouldn't be in a progressive country (which we'e not particularly).
However, as a MH professional with direct contact with people admitted to A&E showing signs of psychosis and directed for MH assessments I CAN tell you it absolutely is a problem.
The way that you proclaim it isn't a problem suggests to me that maybe you do have a problem. No offence.
Wakely Wakely Wycombe. Announce Bishop, so that I can feel like a Free Man. I'm a-Gape at how long this is taking. Historically, a promising season Blooms when the squad is complete. A prolonged saga could become Grimmer if there is no news. I feel as though we are set to Wing it without a goalkeeper, and you will find many fans drinking in De Barr, drowning their sorrows. Some of us are Young, but no-one is getting any younger.
A few observations on pot, drugs, alcohol & MH from a child of the sixties
The skunk/grass they smoke today is ridiculously strong compared to the resin we smoked in my teens & twenties (Moroccan or Lebanese mostly)
The strength along with the amount that today's youngsters smoke (due to the relative ease of getting it) does indeed seem to fuel their paranoia and I suspect long term use will not help their MH
It appears from countries that have decriminalised or legalised cannabis &/or other drugs that overall drug use has dropped, the levels of crime associated with users has plummeted and the level of drug related MH problems has diminished
It is a truism but if alcohol had been discovered in the 20th century it too would be a banned substance & is by far and away the substance that places the greatest burden on the NHS & in many is a prime cause of MH problems
Most town centres now smell of a mixture of pot, stale piss & car fumes
@Erroll_Sims Was going to say exactly the same re. alcohol. I'm 28 and have pretty much stopped drinking - a lot of my generation are going sober, although that might be partly due to the cost!
It appears from countries that have decriminalised or legalised cannabis &/or other drugs that overall drug use has dropped, the levels of crime associated with users has plummeted and the level of drug related MH problems has diminished
There's a shitload of data to back this up. The other thing that's going unsaid is that teenagers who wanted to do drugs but couldn't get hold of them in the 70s used to sniff glue instead. I'm fairly confident that that's worse for you.
Unfortunately not!! I know the odd word but it wasn't cool to be Greek for me when I was at school. Now I regret it massively. I love being half Greek. Such a complex language to learn and I respect you for learning it.
The masculine/feminine thing got me when I found out that a beer was feminine!
How are you learning if you don't mind me asking? Self teaching or tutoring?
I just got back from Kefalonia (also spelt Cephalonia and Kephalonia for some unknown reason). Other than Lemnos it's the only island I've been to as my family are from Athens. It is beautiful and would highly recommend.
We should not worry. I have been told by a good friend of Tyla that when Tyla told Ainsworth that he wanted to be keeper all season Ainsworth just laughed. New signing will definitely happen before the weekend trip to Bolton.
@thecatwwfc thank you for the background! I will take your advice on the islands into account too!
It's a shame you did not feel like you could lean into your Greek heritage as a youngster. It is a fine country with an amazing history! Hopefully you are able to enjoy that heritage much more now.
I am using an App, but my background in Ancient Greek is helping me get through it quickly. Once I am through that, I plan to read daily newspapers, listen to Greek radio etc., to build on the basic foundation and expand the vocabulary.
That is funny about the female beer! I have found it amusing how so many fancy sounding medical terms are very basic in Greek, for example:
Periodontal = Peri (around) Odous (tooth). So, "around the tooth"
I am sure that is not shocking, but knowing a bit of Greek does make all this medical terminology sound like it was made up by a six year old, as everything is exactly as stated on the tin, so to speak.
Have to agree with all of that (as an aside can you remember where the 3rd member of the Gold (Moroccan) Red (Lebanese) Black (???) holy trinity was from?) apart from after 20.00 you can add the smell of kebab meat
the other observation I would make is that if we do want to manage the (genuine) risk of mental health issues from (usually) excessive use of cannabis we really need to invest a lot more in educating people in its use.
Thanks @Erroll_Sims - it did come back to me eventually but was Afghan Black I remember from the mid/late 70s - and was the best I thought of the available options
None of which can remotely be connected to my appalling memory these days…
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I have some sympathy with this view but which of the examples I gave do you think are fear mongering rather than observable and measurable phenomena?
The climate crisis, increasing inequality and social mobility, no chance of buying a house, governments who cheat and lie, worsening standard of living, a lowering of life expectancy, war in Europe, loss of ability to live, study and work abroad etc etc.
It’s all very well for Boomers and Gen X to tell kids to cheer up but the poor sods are having to clear up the mess we’ve left them.
The advertising industry has a lot to answer for too, but I’ll leave Bill Hicks to cover that one off.
So did we sign Bishop in the end?
I was watching a programme about Queens of Song the other evening and it included a video of Beyoncé Knowles. The box providing information about the singer, date of recoding etc mentioned that, at the time (whenever that was), she was said to be earning more than any other black singer.
I’m not really into Beyoncé’s style of music and I had little or no idea what she looked like but I would have described her appearance (café au lait or lighter) as ‘mixed race’. However, after reading some of the comments on this thread, spawned by Nathan Bishop’s no-show, I’m now confused (a) as to how pale someone can be and still be described as black and (b) how dodgy it could be to describe someone as ‘mixed race’ without knowing the ethnicity of their parents.
Back to the Queens of Song. I’ve only watched 20 minutes or so and I’ve not been too excited but I was stopped in my tracks (as it were) by a genuine Queen of Song (Queen of Soul, indeed). Aretha Franklin singing “I say a little Prayer” in 1970. Brilliant.
Not sure we've quite reached the end.
@micra And to further complicate things, there is personal preference.
Obama (who has one parent who is white and one who is black, from Kenya) self-identifies as black rather than mixed race; but Megan, Duchess of Sussex (who has one parent who is white and who is black, from the US) self-identifies as mixed race.
The way a couple of people actually down voted you for this probably shows the extent of the problem!
You're spot on though, there was a really strong smell of it walking down Hillbottom after the game
I think you will find that Rihanna earns more now. Kanye West I believe is currently worth nearly £2 billon dollars!
Mrs W was an ITU nurse and worked in school nursing and health visiting at the end of her NHS career of 30 odd years. She is adamant that the increase in cannabis and cocaine use from much earlier ages was having a significant impact on youth mental health issues and that was across all classes. Throw in Social media and its like petrol on your Tesco barbeque. Like gambling, I think the people who like a flutter cannot see the harm that all the nosey miseries looking for trouble might.
You liked that BBC music documentary? In which case may I suggest...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002fyg
Brilliant. And I'm pretty sure Nathan Bishop would love it too.
I hate the smell and don't smoke it myself, but I don't see it as a problem. I think it's only really seen as one because it's illegal - which it shouldn't be in a progressive country (which we'e not particularly).
I don't know what age has to do with it?
However, as a MH professional with direct contact with people admitted to A&E showing signs of psychosis and directed for MH assessments I CAN tell you it absolutely is a problem.
The way that you proclaim it isn't a problem suggests to me that maybe you do have a problem. No offence.
Wakely Wakely Wycombe. Announce Bishop, so that I can feel like a Free Man. I'm a-Gape at how long this is taking. Historically, a promising season Blooms when the squad is complete. A prolonged saga could become Grimmer if there is no news. I feel as though we are set to Wing it without a goalkeeper, and you will find many fans drinking in De Barr, drowning their sorrows. Some of us are Young, but no-one is getting any younger.
A few observations on pot, drugs, alcohol & MH from a child of the sixties
@Erroll_Sims Was going to say exactly the same re. alcohol. I'm 28 and have pretty much stopped drinking - a lot of my generation are going sober, although that might be partly due to the cost!
If only that was the case with some of more "lively" fans in the terrace for whom the pre match seems more important than the game.
Although we're constantly told the "match day experience" us what it's about.
@Malone I mean... Getting pissed doesn't automatically turn you into a twat.
@Erroll_Sims said:
It appears from countries that have decriminalised or legalised cannabis &/or other drugs that overall drug use has dropped, the levels of crime associated with users has plummeted and the level of drug related MH problems has diminished
There's a shitload of data to back this up. The other thing that's going unsaid is that teenagers who wanted to do drugs but couldn't get hold of them in the 70s used to sniff glue instead. I'm fairly confident that that's worse for you.
Unfortunately not!! I know the odd word but it wasn't cool to be Greek for me when I was at school. Now I regret it massively. I love being half Greek. Such a complex language to learn and I respect you for learning it.
The masculine/feminine thing got me when I found out that a beer was feminine!
How are you learning if you don't mind me asking? Self teaching or tutoring?
I just got back from Kefalonia (also spelt Cephalonia and Kephalonia for some unknown reason). Other than Lemnos it's the only island I've been to as my family are from Athens. It is beautiful and would highly recommend.
We should not worry. I have been told by a good friend of Tyla that when Tyla told Ainsworth that he wanted to be keeper all season Ainsworth just laughed. New signing will definitely happen before the weekend trip to Bolton.
@thecatwwfc thank you for the background! I will take your advice on the islands into account too!
It's a shame you did not feel like you could lean into your Greek heritage as a youngster. It is a fine country with an amazing history! Hopefully you are able to enjoy that heritage much more now.
I am using an App, but my background in Ancient Greek is helping me get through it quickly. Once I am through that, I plan to read daily newspapers, listen to Greek radio etc., to build on the basic foundation and expand the vocabulary.
That is funny about the female beer! I have found it amusing how so many fancy sounding medical terms are very basic in Greek, for example:
Periodontal = Peri (around) Odous (tooth). So, "around the tooth"
I am sure that is not shocking, but knowing a bit of Greek does make all this medical terminology sound like it was made up by a six year old, as everything is exactly as stated on the tin, so to speak.
Have to agree with all of that (as an aside can you remember where the 3rd member of the Gold (Moroccan) Red (Lebanese) Black (???) holy trinity was from?) apart from after 20.00 you can add the smell of kebab meat
the other observation I would make is that if we do want to manage the (genuine) risk of mental health issues from (usually) excessive use of cannabis we really need to invest a lot more in educating people in its use.
what we got very occasionally got hold of was Pakistani Black which I suspect in hindsight was probably from Kashmir; we also often got
so baked that you trailed off mid-sentence?
Thanks @Erroll_Sims - it did come back to me eventually but was Afghan Black I remember from the mid/late 70s - and was the best I thought of the available options
None of which can remotely be connected to my appalling memory these days…
I like to imagine everyone on the Gasroom is high as a kite
Apart from @LX1 who exists several levels of atmosphere above kite-flying height
It wasn’t the amount they earn which interested me; that happened to be the context in which the description of Beyoncé as black was made.
Is that right It doesn’t sound like good man management to just laugh when one of your players shows some ambition