He seems like a player who will learn. He has played against really tough attacking players recently and adapted throughout those games and improved. Some players go the other way after a tough game. We saw the same with Anis where he made errors and learned. This has as much to do with the club as the player. I am pretty sure Matt B won't shout at a player for trying and failing and the fans are rarely hostile when they see a player is giving it their all.
I thought the terrace was quite good last night and the drumming was fine so I was surprised it was the chap who had his sticks confiscated. I did not hear any abuse but it looked like some of the Cambridge players were just laughing at it at the end..sad to hear it was so unpleasant.
I think Jasper has done well enough for a young starter. He does seem too slight at times, and might need to take inspiration from Anis and bulk up through the summer
A back pass is not going to break down a well organised defence. It’s a good result for the defenders. We have to break through the defensive lines with dribbling and/or clever movement off the ball. You see this in the Prem all the time as that is what it takes to get a significant number of opportunities per game.
I’m afraid you’ve misjudged me totally there @perfidious_albion !! TJ and Freeman are chalk and cheese. My only motivation in suggesting that TJ might represent a greater attacking threat than Hanlan is the frustration of never having seen him in action for longer than 15-20 minutes and therefore not being in a position to make a fair judgement of his potential.
There have been glimpses of skill and he certainly can’t be faulted when it comes to commitment. He wouldn’t win a sprint against Hanlan (as @Malone was at pains to point out) but he seems to me, on limited evidence, to be more “switched on” and quicker to react in tight situations.
With all the injuries currently, TJ may get more minutes (or even a start) on Saturday. In the meantime, the jury is obviously out.
@micra my point, perhaps poorly expressed, was not that you compare Nick to TJ - yes perhaps ‘chalk and cheese’ but more likely ‘wheat and chaff’. But that he is your latest choice of a fringe player to champion unconditionally. Whilst Nick appears to be cutting it in League One, TJ, sadly, is probably a Conference starter at best.
Sorry @perfidious_albion. At no point have I said anything to suggest unconditional championing of TJ. Far from it. He remains very much an unknown quantity.
Apart from Pattenden, the only fringe player I identified as having the potential to become a regular member of the first team squad is Christie Ward, a prolific goalscorer from midfield as a 16-18 year old at Brockenhurst.
You may be thinking of me, I'm quite bullish on Tjay. Not necessarily as someone who's going to bang in 20 goals a season, but he seems to me to have great vision and the occasional absolutely inspired touch / pass. Would be good to see him get a start in a fullish strength side to get a better idea of whether he actually does bring something different though - we've only really seen him start during an injury crisis or with other fringe players in the pizza cup.
I’m also bullish on TJ. I think he’d be well suited to a narrow front two or three. I don’t think the ‘10’ role suits him as much. I don’t think he’d be a particularly good winger either. I want him close to Vokes.
I wonder if TJay might eventually settle as a wide player or midfielder, getting more minutes in international football than at club level is a bit of a rarity but as Gibraltar see so little of the ball and create a minimum of chances it's not going to help him practice his finishing. He's a fighter and he is pretty good on the ball but there are so many nearly players about.
Though he was more a wrestler than a barger maybe?
Samuel didn't really have the strength or aggression to barge. His speciality was impossibly holding the ball up and going down when inevitably thwacked by some goon.
Simmo? As in Michael Simpson? Don't recall much barging from him either?
I guess Samuel’s barge was more of a defensive one, or as you say perhaps it was more his ability to invite a barge.
Simmo was tenacious, my memories or him are a bit similar to Scowen, very strong in the tackle, more often than not coming away with the ball and playing a quick incisive pass. There were certainly plenty of strong shoulder challenges from him
On the few occasions when I have played football in my younger days, lacking any discernible skill in dribbling, tackling or passing, I did rely heavily on the shoulder barge as my tactic of choice, and opponents did tend to stay barged.
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He seems like a player who will learn. He has played against really tough attacking players recently and adapted throughout those games and improved. Some players go the other way after a tough game. We saw the same with Anis where he made errors and learned. This has as much to do with the club as the player. I am pretty sure Matt B won't shout at a player for trying and failing and the fans are rarely hostile when they see a player is giving it their all.
A minor ‘I tell you what grinds my gears’
Referee to keeper ‘hurry up’
and then ‘I meant it, hurry up’
and then ‘hurry up with an angry straight arm’
and then ‘this time I’m walking towards you to say hurry up’
JUST FECKING BOOK HIM. ITS HIS FIFTH WARNING
I thought the terrace was quite good last night and the drumming was fine so I was surprised it was the chap who had his sticks confiscated. I did not hear any abuse but it looked like some of the Cambridge players were just laughing at it at the end..sad to hear it was so unpleasant.
I think Jasper has done well enough for a young starter. He does seem too slight at times, and might need to take inspiration from Anis and bulk up through the summer
A back pass is not going to break down a well organised defence. It’s a good result for the defenders. We have to break through the defensive lines with dribbling and/or clever movement off the ball. You see this in the Prem all the time as that is what it takes to get a significant number of opportunities per game.
I’m afraid you’ve misjudged me totally there @perfidious_albion !! TJ and Freeman are chalk and cheese. My only motivation in suggesting that TJ might represent a greater attacking threat than Hanlan is the frustration of never having seen him in action for longer than 15-20 minutes and therefore not being in a position to make a fair judgement of his potential.
There have been glimpses of skill and he certainly can’t be faulted when it comes to commitment. He wouldn’t win a sprint against Hanlan (as @Malone was at pains to point out) but he seems to me, on limited evidence, to be more “switched on” and quicker to react in tight situations.
With all the injuries currently, TJ may get more minutes (or even a start) on Saturday. In the meantime, the jury is obviously out.
I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that he is recovering from an Anterior Cruciate Ligament Injury.
@micra my point, perhaps poorly expressed, was not that you compare Nick to TJ - yes perhaps ‘chalk and cheese’ but more likely ‘wheat and chaff’. But that he is your latest choice of a fringe player to champion unconditionally. Whilst Nick appears to be cutting it in League One, TJ, sadly, is probably a Conference starter at best.
Sorry @perfidious_albion. At no point have I said anything to suggest unconditional championing of TJ. Far from it. He remains very much an unknown quantity.
Apart from Pattenden, the only fringe player I identified as having the potential to become a regular member of the first team squad is Christie Ward, a prolific goalscorer from midfield as a 16-18 year old at Brockenhurst.
@micra I stand corrected.
We possibly agree that an impactful striker is needed, who that might be remains the challenge.
You may be thinking of me, I'm quite bullish on Tjay. Not necessarily as someone who's going to bang in 20 goals a season, but he seems to me to have great vision and the occasional absolutely inspired touch / pass. Would be good to see him get a start in a fullish strength side to get a better idea of whether he actually does bring something different though - we've only really seen him start during an injury crisis or with other fringe players in the pizza cup.
I also love the wrecking ball aspect of him - causes havoc against some defenders.
Without any doubt he's the best in the division for barging people.
I’m also bullish on TJ. I think he’d be well suited to a narrow front two or three. I don’t think the ‘10’ role suits him as much. I don’t think he’d be a particularly good winger either. I want him close to Vokes.
Yeah, close to Vokes in a two would be ideal, and while he's definitely not a winger, he runs the channels well.
Does he post on here as @bargepole!
Close to Voakes sounds good. Benchwarmers?😉
I wonder if TJay might eventually settle as a wide player or midfielder, getting more minutes in international football than at club level is a bit of a rarity but as Gibraltar see so little of the ball and create a minimum of chances it's not going to help him practice his finishing. He's a fighter and he is pretty good on the ball but there are so many nearly players about.
On the treatment table? 😂
Phillips is an excellent barger too. I expect we lead the 92 clubs in xB.
Who have been our best bargers of the modern era? Simmo, Alex Samuel?
I grant you a "lol" sir.
Morias?
Though he was more a wrestler than a barger maybe?
Samuel didn't really have the strength or aggression to barge. His speciality was impossibly holding the ball up and going down when inevitably thwacked by some goon.
Simmo? As in Michael Simpson? Don't recall much barging from him either?
I guess Samuel’s barge was more of a defensive one, or as you say perhaps it was more his ability to invite a barge.
Simmo was tenacious, my memories or him are a bit similar to Scowen, very strong in the tackle, more often than not coming away with the ball and playing a quick incisive pass. There were certainly plenty of strong shoulder challenges from him
I think Uche and Akinde were quite handy in that aspect.
People forget Bayo that quickly?
It was always fun watching opponents attempting to barge Bayo
Bayo’s was less of a barge and more planting himself in position and defenders bouncing off him.
But if he barged you... you'd stay barged
Err ... no, nothing to do with me.
On the few occasions when I have played football in my younger days, lacking any discernible skill in dribbling, tackling or passing, I did rely heavily on the shoulder barge as my tactic of choice, and opponents did tend to stay barged.