truth hurts , we sell for peanuts and buy semi pro player and MK Dons sell a player for 3m and invest that into the team....we can take a leaf out of their book
Franchise had a good proportion of their team in on loan last year - all returned to parent clubs. Arguably their best player Scott Twine moved on and pretty sure they have lost other significant players this calendar year. No surprise they are needing to recruit heavily. That’s not ambition that’s replacing what’s left.
"Let's face it, if Vokes gets any length of injury, we aren't likely to even make the playoffs. Same for the majority of clubs."
Whilst I can see that a long injury to Vokes may well hamper our chances I am struggling to see how that would affect the majority of clubs; perhaps you could elucidate on this superpower that Vokes has when he is injured?
I'm calm about our transfer window on the whole, but I am starting to get a bit concerned about the lack of a goalkeeper - although if it is Bishop and he's joining after United's pre-season tour, I guess that would make sense as it doesn't seem our style to announce a player until they're actually through the door.
On a not entirely unrelated note, does anyone else feel there's been less hype-building for the season ahead than normal this summer?
What and spend monies like Thames water with their leaks you mean? We don't have Wankleman borrowing monies we haven't got? Yes they sold one or two players this summer, but do you know how much still in debt they are, BTW, I don't know for sure, but they were in dire financial do dos not that long ago.
@Wanderers82, I feel that your comment, "surely this is not debatable?" should read, "is this not debatable?" The Gasroom is a forum for debate in my understanding.
Scott Twine, signed out of contract when he'd had been plying his trade for Waterford and Chippenham, sold on for £3m.
So, when you say "we can [sic] take a leaf out of their book", you mean we should be looking for talented youngsters playing semi-pro football that we can later sell on for a profit? Good, glad to hear you've come around to everyone else's point of view.
Not quite the same as he'd been a Swindon player that whole time and spent the season before joining MK in L1 and L2, but I think a lot of clubs higher up the pyramid will be kicking themselves they didn't go for him when he was available cheap
Yeah, dunno why we didn't buy Derby, call em Derby Wanderers, sell our ground to buy a striker and let everyone who disagrees fk off and find something else to do, gotta respect MK Dons... it's too much even to parody
You really don’t get it, do you? Ambition is demonstrated in different ways. Some clubs , like Derby County and (in a considerably more modest way) MK Dongs, believe that splashing the cash on experienced players is the right route towards achieving their ambitions.
The philosophy at our club is based, as @DrCongo has so eloquently pointed out, on identifying, recruiting and developing talented young semi-professional players who will initially gain experience via substitute appearances and in some cases (eg Mehmeti and Forino) fairly extensive involvement in first team matches before being sold on to profit the club and further their own careers.
If you can get that philosophy into your head (and live with it) and also accept that the policy regarding recruitment of more established ‘stars’ has, for several seasons, been based on a softly softly approach, I think your mind will be greatly eased and you will be less inclined to doubt the ambition of this very special club. Perhaps hold your horses until the end of August. If we’re in the bottom half of the table then, have a field day.
You don't get it@drcongo other clubs signing young players to develop and sell on is a fine business plan and shows ambition. For those who have been criticising that Ainsworth's every move for three or four years now, us doing it is a sign of abject failure that surely is not debatable. (Unless you are a cyber bullying sheep in rose tinted glasses who believes everything the club tells you. )
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truth hurts , we sell for peanuts and buy semi pro player and MK Dons sell a player for 3m and invest that into the team....we can take a leaf out of their book
Franchise had a good proportion of their team in on loan last year - all returned to parent clubs. Arguably their best player Scott Twine moved on and pretty sure they have lost other significant players this calendar year. No surprise they are needing to recruit heavily. That’s not ambition that’s replacing what’s left.
@Bacon_Sandwich intrigued by this assertion
"Let's face it, if Vokes gets any length of injury, we aren't likely to even make the playoffs. Same for the majority of clubs."
Whilst I can see that a long injury to Vokes may well hamper our chances I am struggling to see how that would affect the majority of clubs; perhaps you could elucidate on this superpower that Vokes has when he is injured?
I'm calm about our transfer window on the whole, but I am starting to get a bit concerned about the lack of a goalkeeper - although if it is Bishop and he's joining after United's pre-season tour, I guess that would make sense as it doesn't seem our style to announce a player until they're actually through the door.
On a not entirely unrelated note, does anyone else feel there's been less hype-building for the season ahead than normal this summer?
If he's all signed up it's exceptionally relaxed of us not minding that he's on tour until a few days before our first game.
Might have been nice to get him learning how to knock it to Vokesy, tie his laces or generally arse around when the ball is dead.
Why do you think signing 35 year olds shows ambition
Bayo was 34 when he signed for us...
What and spend monies like Thames water with their leaks you mean? We don't have Wankleman borrowing monies we haven't got? Yes they sold one or two players this summer, but do you know how much still in debt they are, BTW, I don't know for sure, but they were in dire financial do dos not that long ago.
6/10. Would have been better if you had replaced 'them' with 'our nearest rivals'
Without hindsight, would @Wanderers82 have considered the Bayo signing in 2016 demonstrating ambition?
I am giving my views that we lack ambition, based on the signings we have made so far, surely this is not debatable?
@Wanderers82, I feel that your comment, "surely this is not debatable?" should read, "is this not debatable?" The Gasroom is a forum for debate in my understanding.
its a forum for debate however the majority of people don't like an opinion different to theirs !
Scott Twine, signed out of contract when he'd had been plying his trade for Waterford and Chippenham, sold on for £3m.
So, when you say "we can [sic] take a leaf out of their book", you mean we should be looking for talented youngsters playing semi-pro football that we can later sell on for a profit? Good, glad to hear you've come around to everyone else's point of view.
I'd very much include you in that apparent majority.
Not quite the same as he'd been a Swindon player that whole time and spent the season before joining MK in L1 and L2, but I think a lot of clubs higher up the pyramid will be kicking themselves they didn't go for him when he was available cheap
Yeah, dunno why we didn't buy Derby, call em Derby Wanderers, sell our ground to buy a striker and let everyone who disagrees fk off and find something else to do, gotta respect MK Dons... it's too much even to parody
You really don’t get it, do you? Ambition is demonstrated in different ways. Some clubs , like Derby County and (in a considerably more modest way) MK Dongs, believe that splashing the cash on experienced players is the right route towards achieving their ambitions.
The philosophy at our club is based, as @DrCongo has so eloquently pointed out, on identifying, recruiting and developing talented young semi-professional players who will initially gain experience via substitute appearances and in some cases (eg Mehmeti and Forino) fairly extensive involvement in first team matches before being sold on to profit the club and further their own careers.
If you can get that philosophy into your head (and live with it) and also accept that the policy regarding recruitment of more established ‘stars’ has, for several seasons, been based on a softly softly approach, I think your mind will be greatly eased and you will be less inclined to doubt the ambition of this very special club. Perhaps hold your horses until the end of August. If we’re in the bottom half of the table then, have a field day.
I think Ipswich are a recent example of how the strategy of splashing the cash and signing ‘names’ doesn’t always work at this level.
it will work this season....they will walk the league
Thanks for the inside info. I will collect all the £50 notes stuffed under my mattress down to the bookies tomorrow.
your welcome
His welcome?
I disagree.
We have resigned Vokes who is currently the third highest scorer with assists left in League One, just below Stockton and May.
I reckon this season you will see him improve on his tally of 17+7. Great numbers considering he’s not our penalty taker.
You said yourself he would be off if we weren’t promoted so you are clearly impressed he’s signed.
oh my words , if you really think we have a better squad now than last season then you are more deluded than I thought
That's what they said last year
IQ82 is saying the same things he said last year too.
course I was mate , Iowrich been very clever in transfers market , they played us off the pitch last season
You don't get it@drcongo other clubs signing young players to develop and sell on is a fine business plan and shows ambition. For those who have been criticising that Ainsworth's every move for three or four years now, us doing it is a sign of abject failure that surely is not debatable. (Unless you are a cyber bullying sheep in rose tinted glasses who believes everything the club tells you. )
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