Garth Crooks often comes in from a different angle, and makes you think about the points raised.
Ally McCoist is superb, and great at lifting peoples spirits with his light hearted stories and quips.
Hoddle and the shreiking Mcmanaman are my pet hates.
@ChasHarps said:
Garth Crooks often comes in from a different angle, and makes you think about the points raised.
Ally McCoist is superb, and great at lifting peoples spirits with his light hearted stories and quips.
Hoddle and the shreiking Mcmanaman are my pet hates.
A Garth Crooks fan! Amazing.
I thought he was someone everyone agreed was a poor listen.
How our society allows this man a platform is beyond me. You can laugh at the US about Trump but we live in a country that allows Glen Hoddle to exist.
This is a man who believes disabled people are paying for crimes in a past life. This is a man who dropped the most talented footballer ever to play for England before a World Cup. I'm no Beckham fan but this is the man who belittled David Beckham because he couldn't do a skill.
@eric_plant said:
I've met Glenn Hoddle, he's a really nice bloke.
Not met him myself but know people who have, who would heartily agree with you @eric_plant . Personally, except for some painful exceptions (of which Clinton Morrison is one) if I'm interested in the game, if they can pronounce the players names properly I don't find many commentators or co-commentators that exciting or that irritating...
@davecz said: @eric_plant - if people share the same view on disabled people like Hoddle, I am very happy to write them off.
I'd stop digging on this. You are going down a very dodgy path on who you are writing off here. If you trully believe what you are saying you're worse than anything Hoddle said.
Seriously, I know a lot of people who are perfectly pleasant but hold some very strange views...religious or not...and I have met Americans who were delightful until you mention guns or Hillary Clinton. Glen Hoddle may have some bizarre views on the disabled, faith healers and David Beckham but he paid the price for espousing them. Who knows what he believes now how ever many years later...
As an aside, the Glenn Hoddle sacking was one of those news stories which was more surreal for me owing to travelling. I feel as though whenever a major news story breaks and you are abroad, it feels unreal, as though it would not have happened had you been home. I remember being in a run down little hotel in Santiago, Chile, and hearing the whole story, and feeling sure it would not have happened had I been back in England.
Similarly, the Las Vegas mass shooting a few years ago happened less than a week after my wife (a Las Vegas native) and I moved to Denver from Vegas. We had turned down a Vegas wedding invitation from a friend for that same night, owing to leaving for new pastures. I walked into my new job and was sitting with other new employees, and when they heard I had just moved from Vegas they said "You must be really upset, then!" I had no idea of what had happened to that point, and it again felt all the more surreal owing to having just moved (after a total of 14 years in Las Vegas).
None of this is to downplay or trivialize the seriousness of any tragic or negative events, just to observe how unreal they feel when one is away from those surroundings.
Has anyone else had any major events happen when they were away? Do you remember where you were for any of them?
@eric_plant said:
I'll bet davecz is a really nice bloke as well
And everyone else who posts on here
We all need reminding of that from time to time when we're getting bogged down in tedious debates on here
Post of the day. I think we would all happily grab a beer with each other, unaware that we are drinking with someone we just disagreed with furiously over whether Nick Freeman should have gone out on loan.
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Garth Crooks often comes in from a different angle, and makes you think about the points raised.
Ally McCoist is superb, and great at lifting peoples spirits with his light hearted stories and quips.
Hoddle and the shreiking Mcmanaman are my pet hates.
A Garth Crooks fan! Amazing.
I thought he was someone everyone agreed was a poor listen.
Can't disagree with that.
Hoddle is the solution for insomniacs.
How our society allows this man a platform is beyond me. You can laugh at the US about Trump but we live in a country that allows Glen Hoddle to exist.
This is a man who believes disabled people are paying for crimes in a past life. This is a man who dropped the most talented footballer ever to play for England before a World Cup. I'm no Beckham fan but this is the man who belittled David Beckham because he couldn't do a skill.
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Wow @LX1 and I thought he was just dull to listen to. Hope his solicitor isnt a Gasroomer.
It's the Hodglish that does my head in.
"Them ones" and other such jarring nonsense.
His comments about disabled people are very much in the public domain. He's a pillock.
He should go into politics. Would fit in very well with Bozza's gang!
Always quite liked Garth Crooks as well to be honest
There were some rather more controversial comments in the original post which I have removed.
Boo.
I have no doubt he may possibly be a pillock and I know about his views and his record. Just thought the Savile comment might be a touch too far.
I've met Glenn Hoddle, he's a really nice bloke.
Not met him myself but know people who have, who would heartily agree with you @eric_plant . Personally, except for some painful exceptions (of which Clinton Morrison is one) if I'm interested in the game, if they can pronounce the players names properly I don't find many commentators or co-commentators that exciting or that irritating...
@eric_plant said:
With the views he expressed about disabled people, I find it incredible anyone can say he's a really nice bloke!!
Perhaps disabled people reincarnated and punished for their past sins never came up in conversation.
Depends whether you accept it's possible for nice people to believe barmy stuff because of the religion they follow I guess
You're writing off an awful lot of people if that's your criteria for liking or disliking people though
74 million Americans for example!
@eric_plant - if people share the same view on disabled people like Hoddle, I am very happy to write them off.
All Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists for starters then
Few billion there
I'd stop digging on this. You are going down a very dodgy path on who you are writing off here. If you trully believe what you are saying you're worse than anything Hoddle said.
Seriously, I know a lot of people who are perfectly pleasant but hold some very strange views...religious or not...and I have met Americans who were delightful until you mention guns or Hillary Clinton. Glen Hoddle may have some bizarre views on the disabled, faith healers and David Beckham but he paid the price for espousing them. Who knows what he believes now how ever many years later...
I'll bet davecz is a really nice bloke as well
And everyone else who posts on here
We all need reminding of that from time to time when we're getting bogged down in tedious debates on here
As an aside, the Glenn Hoddle sacking was one of those news stories which was more surreal for me owing to travelling. I feel as though whenever a major news story breaks and you are abroad, it feels unreal, as though it would not have happened had you been home. I remember being in a run down little hotel in Santiago, Chile, and hearing the whole story, and feeling sure it would not have happened had I been back in England.
Similarly, the Las Vegas mass shooting a few years ago happened less than a week after my wife (a Las Vegas native) and I moved to Denver from Vegas. We had turned down a Vegas wedding invitation from a friend for that same night, owing to leaving for new pastures. I walked into my new job and was sitting with other new employees, and when they heard I had just moved from Vegas they said "You must be really upset, then!" I had no idea of what had happened to that point, and it again felt all the more surreal owing to having just moved (after a total of 14 years in Las Vegas).
None of this is to downplay or trivialize the seriousness of any tragic or negative events, just to observe how unreal they feel when one is away from those surroundings.
Has anyone else had any major events happen when they were away? Do you remember where you were for any of them?
Post of the day. I think we would all happily grab a beer with each other, unaware that we are drinking with someone we just disagreed with furiously over whether Nick Freeman should have gone out on loan.
This is very true. Personally I think I'm a bloody great bloke !!
Personally I don't hold any barmy political views and yet I'm a complete arsehole.