Derby (H) - Build Up Thread
I know we don't normally have a build up thread, but it feels like this warrants it. Some thoughts:
- Derby are on absolutely roasting hot form, and to my mind should get 2nd, barring injuries (or even catch Wednesday). There is even a thread on their forum titled 'No Stopping Us Now'. Can we do what no-one else has come close to doing lately and get a result, especially with no actual CBs?
- The subplot of how the fans will behave should be interesting. Some Derby fans have made threats, but will anyone really follow through? It seems like Wycombe fans are somewhat divided as to how they feel about the whole indicident.
- Should we stop the game for a moment's silence when we get to the Horgan onside minute of the previous home meeting?
For me, much as we really need to keep winning to have playoff hopes, I can't help but feel a draw would be a good result. Of course, maybe we end up toasting this game in retrospect as 'The Chem Game', when we depreciated Derby's automatic chances using a conventional method?
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Why do I want to build a home for Derby?
Although we could bolt on a shrew extras I suppose, bury(d) deep in the small print?
Quickest pun derailment!
Ainsworth vs. Warne always ends up very tightly contested - often nil nil. I said it at the time, but I still believe Derby are the best team we've faced this season. Rip your hand off for a draw.
Agreed that a draw would be a great result, given the injuries to our defence, the fact that Derby have some very good players, and that Warne’s Rotherham sides always gave us a damn tough game - if he’s added an extra level of physicality and defensive resolve to the side we saw at theirs, this is going to be a major challenge.
Warne is a top manager at our level, and seems a likeable bloke too. If he takes Derby up, he stands to further his career significantly over Rotherham's ceiling, with all due respect to them (and yes, I know "all due respect" is a sly way of saying "no respect", but I really mean it in this case).
We are overdue a last minute 4-3 win where the players are weaving to the crowd in grinning disbelief afterwards.
Will be funny if we win it with an offside goal
Whatever happens just remember that after the game those poor sods will have to go back to living in Derby. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Thomo to bite McGoldrick’s heels all game all over the park
0-0 all over it
Ideally with a goal from a player signed in the morning and not registered properly. Paperwork in the post guv, let's sort it out later.
First time the club has played 3 founder members of the Football League consecutively - stick that on the match poster eh
Ideally absolutely miles off as well. And with a blatant handball involved. In the 12th minute of stoppage time.
WHAT! The PNL were founder members of the Football League, hate them more than ever discovering that😉
Am I the only person who goes 'aye oh way oh way.... Derby County ' from The Armando Iannucci Show?
Yes.
No you're not - "keep it, keep it there"
Absolutely miles offside
There are Derby supporters I work with who still claim that pic is inconclusive.
Incidentally, I’m travelling down (but not back, thank god) with a few of them. They’re all enjoying themselves this season but definitely nervous about this one.
From reading their forum a little, evidently Derby fans have the same persecution complex with the EFL that Man City have with the PL. Oh, and that Bernie Madoff had with the SEC. Oh, and that St. John's Ambulance and local small businesses (rightly) had with Derby County.
Imagine feeling persecuted by an organization that actually helped you stay up (and possibly remain in existence) by their incompetence! The EFL probably saved Derby, as they would have had a huge deduction in L1 instead of the Championship had the timing been different, and that might have been curtains.
What's their angle?
Wheeler hasn't actually put ball to foot yet?
Their keeper is actually in our half of the shot unseen thus leaving only 1 defensive player in between Horgan and goal.
Inability to put a ruler aligned with the half way line and move it along.
Some fans won't hear a word against their club whatever the allegations, facts and rulings.
Their angle is all about angles. They’re not far off claiming lens distortion.
I remember the situation very well. It was a remarkably quick bit of thinking by Mehmeti and Horgan - the former putting the ball swiftly to foot and passing it to Horgan within a split second of the referee’s whistle for a foul.
Only doubt in my mind concerns the location of the Derby ‘keeper. If, as @Malone seems to suggest, the Derby ‘keeper is out of picture to the left, then l think there’s considerable doubt as to whether Horgan really was onside. Not sure where Wheeler fits in.
Right you are it's Mehmeti not Wheeler making the pass.
However, it'd be ridiculous to think their keeper is for some reason 30 or 40 yards out of goal.
For one thing we remember watching Horgan slot home with keeper in net.
The cruel irony being that arguably hid best finish not counting.
The last defender in this pic is actually not the last defender. To the right of McCleary is another defender who is at least another two yards closer to the goal than the defender to the left of McCleary. You can see his shadow clearly on the pitch and it was the very tall left back Craig Forsyth. On the Derby highlights, the Derby supporting commentator can clearly be heard saying that looks 2-3 yards onside and he would have been sat in the press box nearly inline with Horgan.
Have you considered the curvature of the earth though?
Because Derby is closer to the centre of the country than Wycombe, the curvature of the earth meant that the extra land mass had a gravitational effect on the linesman's flag and pulled it into the air.
A different Law of Gravity says what goes up will come down sooner or later, so it is absolutely certain we will score an 'offside goal' on Saturday in the 97th minute to win 1 - 0. The curvature of the earth will have nothing to do with why the game will last at least 97 minutes.
Clearly off
The only off for Horgs is off to Stevenage
That’s brilliant, as is @railwaysteve’s irrefutably scientific explanation.