Yes don’t see him on their radar to be honest. I don’t think he was a serious contender for the Coventry job either. Wasn’t he linked with Hull the other day too? The more he is linked with these jobs the better we are doing anyway.
His interview on Radio 5 last night was really insightful. He talked a lot about his desire to go elsewhere and risk failure. He talked about how some at Wycombe advised him it would be really tough at Colchester on his own, without his own team. He talked about how Colchester was really convenient location-wise - he got to spend time with his daughters every night, for example. He did say that the lure of Wycombe was too good to turn down.
My concern about Blooms is not really even him wanting to go - it's whether he will get sacked the first time even a modicum of loyalty is required to keep him, or even before. I think we may have one of the hottest young managers in the EFL on our hands, irrespective of his prior connection to us as Mr. Wycombe, but there is certainly smoke around him not being valued in the same way by the new regime.
That's fair enough! I guess worded differently, I would be much happier with him jumping because an amazing opportunity came up, rather than being pushed because the smartest people in the room have a Swedish 2nd division manager lined up.
Oh yeah, I think that would be a real shock to the system for a club like Wycombe. Again, we're a unique case because the Gaz regime lasted so long, but I feel we do things the 'right' way on that front. But then again, this is a whole new era.
I don't see it myself. Even if you accept that MB is pissed off about Mitchell being let go, standing back from that, he'd surely realise how well backed he has been in terms of his recruitment last summer, what a chance he has to definitively enhance his CV with promotion of a minnow and what detriment he'd do to his reputation with a short stint at a sacking club.
Struggling for results at end of season when joined...even the most loyal calling for his head mid-last season, Hottest young manager for half a season (so far) in League One.
I love Blooms and am loving this season, but I know and he definitely knows, he has achieved nothing yet...and a move to a Championship side at this stage in his career could possibly prove to be madness on both sides...even if they do not have a haunted training ground.
He has been backed, has made some great signings and loan signings, and no-one has been demanding Championship football (in public anyhoo) so he's got a great chance of quietly matching GA's greatest achievement - at which point, I admit, all bets might be off.
If the right opportunity comes up - and only he knows what that is - he'll go. That's football. But I'm just enjoying the ride at the moment (we're gonna win the league).
Hang on @Wendoverman - are you saying a Pizza Cup runner-up medal is not an achievement? 😁
I think the best comp may be Liam Manning - he left Oxford while flying high to go to a middling Champo role, but appears to be gradually putting his stamp on Bristol City after a year in the role. Ryan Lowe was also given a decent stretch at Preston after leaving high flying L1 Plymouth.
I agree it's about the right club coming who will give time, so definitely no Watford!
It's all about the academy and I'd guess Blooms is fine for now. I'm guessing they'll want the football club to mirror the academy's rise towards Cat 1 status so in the next few years the football side will become more important. Lommy will eventually get his app out and we'll have Zidane as our manager at the Kaspi Stadium (which, like the training ground, will be Chelsea's old one when they buy The Royal Hospital and chuck all the pensioners out to build a new ground)
Everyone loved Dean Smith at Brentford. Their new owners decided ‘to go another way’ ie data driven, and look at them now. Yes Blooms is into the numbers, yet the owners will at some point want their man across the whole of the business (for that is what it is).
“All the world’s a stage and all the men and women merely players, they have their exits and their entrances” as The Bard would have it.
Either way, it could have been said for Martin, Manning and Lowe that it was too soon, but they all made a fist of it, so there is definitely precedent. The average tenure of a manager is so short that having a brilliant calendar year like Blooms has had will make people take notice - his hot run is basically as long as the average managerial stint now!
@flymofrank has your opinion on Matt Bloomfield changed this year? I know you weren't convinced when he was appointed as Gareth Ainsworth's successor (and you were far from alone).
I think this is well put, but I would bet there are examples (cough cough John Eustace, cough cough Wayne Rooney) of owners doing dumb things because they think they are the smartest people in the room.
The reality is the Blooms has shown he can hoover up points and get us to the top spot (albeit possibly temporarily) with a budget still far off the top spenders. It would be a huge risk to sack him just because we, say, come 5th in the end and don't win the playoffs.
It's worth checking out one of Ryan Tafazolli's YouTube videos from shortly after Matt Bloomfield's appointment. He was unequivocal about the success he was going to bring to the club. It was a really memorable and remarkable show of faith.
Some people make a judgement and are then stubborn and refuse to change their mind, regardless of the evidence. I've been guilty of this myself in the past.
@Shev it was a memorable end to a strange old season to be sure.
Manning was interesting as he was poached for doing well at the club that should never be mentioned and then poached for doing well at Oxford. I suppose Blooms was the continuity signing who sort of lost the continuity which might have seen us into the play-offs, worked hard to change our style and personnel over a full season and is now (so far) reaping the benefits of the patience he has been given.
I suspect the ownership is, for now, concerned with establishing the Academy and letting him get on with the professional sport, getting points, making fans happy which is of less interest to them at the moment - and is working above and beyond and long may it continue.
Unless someone within a half hour drive from his home has a mental, unrefusable amount of money to dangle before him, I reckon he's here for a while.
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MB surely has a long way to go before he becomes a serious contender for either Ipswich or Norwich.
Yes don’t see him on their radar to be honest. I don’t think he was a serious contender for the Coventry job either. Wasn’t he linked with Hull the other day too? The more he is linked with these jobs the better we are doing anyway.
Norwich and Ipswich are famously ambivalent about each other.
His interview on Radio 5 last night was really insightful. He talked a lot about his desire to go elsewhere and risk failure. He talked about how some at Wycombe advised him it would be really tough at Colchester on his own, without his own team. He talked about how Colchester was really convenient location-wise - he got to spend time with his daughters every night, for example. He did say that the lure of Wycombe was too good to turn down.
Edit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00255qn?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile Blooms is on from 1h 20m.
My concern about Blooms is not really even him wanting to go - it's whether he will get sacked the first time even a modicum of loyalty is required to keep him, or even before. I think we may have one of the hottest young managers in the EFL on our hands, irrespective of his prior connection to us as Mr. Wycombe, but there is certainly smoke around him not being valued in the same way by the new regime.
"I think we may have one of the hottest young managers in the EFL on our hands"
That's the thing - that doesn't go unnoticed for long.
That's fair enough! I guess worded differently, I would be much happier with him jumping because an amazing opportunity came up, rather than being pushed because the smartest people in the room have a Swedish 2nd division manager lined up.
Oh yeah, I think that would be a real shock to the system for a club like Wycombe. Again, we're a unique case because the Gaz regime lasted so long, but I feel we do things the 'right' way on that front. But then again, this is a whole new era.
I don't see it myself. Even if you accept that MB is pissed off about Mitchell being let go, standing back from that, he'd surely realise how well backed he has been in terms of his recruitment last summer, what a chance he has to definitively enhance his CV with promotion of a minnow and what detriment he'd do to his reputation with a short stint at a sacking club.
Struggling for results at end of season when joined...even the most loyal calling for his head mid-last season, Hottest young manager for half a season (so far) in League One.
I love Blooms and am loving this season, but I know and he definitely knows, he has achieved nothing yet...and a move to a Championship side at this stage in his career could possibly prove to be madness on both sides...even if they do not have a haunted training ground.
He has been backed, has made some great signings and loan signings, and no-one has been demanding Championship football (in public anyhoo) so he's got a great chance of quietly matching GA's greatest achievement - at which point, I admit, all bets might be off.
If the right opportunity comes up - and only he knows what that is - he'll go. That's football. But I'm just enjoying the ride at the moment (we're gonna win the league).
Hang on @Wendoverman - are you saying a Pizza Cup runner-up medal is not an achievement? 😁
I think the best comp may be Liam Manning - he left Oxford while flying high to go to a middling Champo role, but appears to be gradually putting his stamp on Bristol City after a year in the role. Ryan Lowe was also given a decent stretch at Preston after leaving high flying L1 Plymouth.
I agree it's about the right club coming who will give time, so definitely no Watford!
Did Russell Martin leave MK for Southampton? I was thinking his trajectory has been pretty solid, even if I fear he's for the chop soon.
"definitely no Watford" would make a good tattoo
He was at Swansea in between, though they are the sort of club I never really notice, so I have no idea how he did!
It's all about the academy and I'd guess Blooms is fine for now. I'm guessing they'll want the football club to mirror the academy's rise towards Cat 1 status so in the next few years the football side will become more important. Lommy will eventually get his app out and we'll have Zidane as our manager at the Kaspi Stadium (which, like the training ground, will be Chelsea's old one when they buy The Royal Hospital and chuck all the pensioners out to build a new ground)
Everyone loved Dean Smith at Brentford. Their new owners decided ‘to go another way’ ie data driven, and look at them now. Yes Blooms is into the numbers, yet the owners will at some point want their man across the whole of the business (for that is what it is).
“All the world’s a stage and all the men and women merely players, they have their exits and their entrances” as The Bard would have it.
And we fans are mere onlookers.
Either way, it could have been said for Martin, Manning and Lowe that it was too soon, but they all made a fist of it, so there is definitely precedent. The average tenure of a manager is so short that having a brilliant calendar year like Blooms has had will make people take notice - his hot run is basically as long as the average managerial stint now!
@flymofrank has your opinion on Matt Bloomfield changed this year? I know you weren't convinced when he was appointed as Gareth Ainsworth's successor (and you were far from alone).
I think this is well put, but I would bet there are examples (cough cough John Eustace, cough cough Wayne Rooney) of owners doing dumb things because they think they are the smartest people in the room.
The reality is the Blooms has shown he can hoover up points and get us to the top spot (albeit possibly temporarily) with a budget still far off the top spenders. It would be a huge risk to sack him just because we, say, come 5th in the end and don't win the playoffs.
I think everyone's opinion of Matt Bloomfield has changed this year, even people that wanted to keep him! No-one foresaw this.
I think I'd have to mad for it not to have changed!
Genuinely don't remember that. Are Swansea even a real club?
It's worth checking out one of Ryan Tafazolli's YouTube videos from shortly after Matt Bloomfield's appointment. He was unequivocal about the success he was going to bring to the club. It was a really memorable and remarkable show of faith.
With hindsight, I guess I judged him too hastily on his record with a team that still wasn't really *his*.
They might be waiting a while for a new ground if they're getting the pensioners to build it.
And will we be London Wanderers or Wycombe Londoners?
Some people make a judgement and are then stubborn and refuse to change their mind, regardless of the evidence. I've been guilty of this myself in the past.
I think we've all been there. A pride thing, I guess.
@Shev it was a memorable end to a strange old season to be sure.
Manning was interesting as he was poached for doing well at the club that should never be mentioned and then poached for doing well at Oxford. I suppose Blooms was the continuity signing who sort of lost the continuity which might have seen us into the play-offs, worked hard to change our style and personnel over a full season and is now (so far) reaping the benefits of the patience he has been given.
I suspect the ownership is, for now, concerned with establishing the Academy and letting him get on with the professional sport, getting points, making fans happy which is of less interest to them at the moment - and is working above and beyond and long may it continue.
Unless someone within a half hour drive from his home has a mental, unrefusable amount of money to dangle before him, I reckon he's here for a while.
But of course, football is mad!