@micra said:
Spot on @Malone. Add in a resurgent Covid variant, big cost of living increases, a sense that there are more important things to spend money on etc and you wonder how most clubs seem still able to attract as many fans as they do.
I've always wondered how so many fans, who don't seem to be in particularly lucrative jobs, manage to go to almost every game, trousering average ticket of say £23, travel costs, booze and food costs.
@Forest_Blue said:
So we all agree we should move the stadium, ideally closer to town. How about Handy Cross?
Bit late now there's a huge shop, leisure centre and loads of other stuff there.
Unless you mean either the cinema or land in the "middle". Although that's all been built on now too.
I think they might have long vetoed it as it would utterly ram the whole of the area for traffic too (more so!!)
@micra said:
Spot on @Malone. Add in a resurgent Covid variant, big cost of living increases, a sense that there are more important things to spend money on etc and you wonder how most clubs seem still able to attract as many fans as they do.
I've always wondered how so many fans, who don't seem to be in particularly lucrative jobs, manage to go to almost every game, trousering average ticket of say £23, travel costs, booze and food costs.
"Who don't seem to be in particularly lucrative jobs"
@micra said:
Spot on @Malone. Add in a resurgent Covid variant, big cost of living increases, a sense that there are more important things to spend money on etc and you wonder how most clubs seem still able to attract as many fans as they do.
I've always wondered how so many fans, who don't seem to be in particularly lucrative jobs, manage to go to almost every game, trousering average ticket of say £23, travel costs, booze and food costs.
"Who don't seem to be in particularly lucrative jobs"
Build a new ground on the Rye - it's massive. Then (and local councils love this) you could call it 'the sporting quarter' with the football, cricket, tennis and bowls clubs all within a stone's throw of each other.
Visiting teams and their fans could enjoy the luxury facilities on offer at the nearby Drakes Court hotel, plus a pre or post match swim at the Lido. The more fighty supporters could meet up to hire boats and pedalos to determine the afternoon's bragging rights.
Plenty of live swans available in the vicinity for a unique Wycombe-style law and order arm-breaking - meted out to any transgressors.
I get a lot more pleasure from stories like AFC Wimbledon, Salford and what Macclesfield are doing now than seeing teams like Chelsea and Man City winning trophies that they have bought.
Surely the concept of sport is to come together as a team and achieve together, provide for the community and build something. Buying trophies means nothing in that sense. You lose the feeling of what sport is meant to be about.
In answer to the question, I wouldn't want it to happen to us.
@thecatwwfc said:
I get a lot more pleasure from stories like AFC Wimbledon, Salford and what Macclesfield are doing now than seeing teams like Chelsea and Man City winning trophies that they have bought.
You word this like it's an alternative view! I'd say almost every fan not linked to those 2 clubs doesn't like how they've gone about it.
You might want to look at your Salford example a bit closer! Hardly romantic is it?
@thecatwwfc said:
I get a lot more pleasure from stories like AFC Wimbledon, Salford and what Macclesfield are doing now than seeing teams like Chelsea and Man City winning trophies that they have bought.
You word this like it's an alternative view! I'd say almost every fan not linked to those 2 clubs doesn't like how they've gone about it.
You might want to look at your Salford example a bit closer! Hardly romantic is it?
Ok maybe not Salford - my knowledge on the subject is not that deep if I'm being honest. But for a fan of the club itself, even Salford, seeing them formed and rising through the leagues is much more of an achievement than buying their way to glory - I would much rather than that having a club funded by someone using us as his/her toy.
But you get what I mean.
@Malone - I wouldn't say almost every fan doesn't agree with it. They must love it! Most fans of this generation won't even know the difference or what it's like to support a club like ours. They will never have that "community" or family club feeling that I love about our club.
@thecatwwfc - I agree with your point. Top level football has lost a lot of soul and fam connectivity. If Wycombe ever disappeared, I would be looking lower in the pyramid, not higher.
@Shev said: @thecatwwfc - I agree with your point. Top level football has lost a lot of soul and fam connectivity. If Wycombe ever disappeared, I would be looking lower in the pyramid, not higher.
Agreed, so would I. Sports loses its integrity when you buy your way to success. The whole point of "sport," is to succeed on an athletic/skill basis - 11 vs 11. Anyone can benefit from money being thrown at them. On a sporting level, although entertaining for the fans, tv and the people benefitting financially - it means absolutely nothing.
I've lost so much interest in the Premier League over the past few years.
@Malone said:
Unless you mean either the cinema or land in the "middle". Although that's all been built on now too.
I think they might have long vetoed it as it would utterly ram the whole of the area for traffic too (more so!!)
Not sure if this is the bit you mean, but there is a decent-sized chunk of land between the next and the YMCA at Handy Cross, part of which I think was the original park and ride. It would be big enough for a stadium (I think) and obviously extremely well connected to the m40/a404 with lots of parking options around. Marginally closer to town too albeit at the top of a massive hill!
@Malone said:
Unless you mean either the cinema or land in the "middle". Although that's all been built on now too.
I think they might have long vetoed it as it would utterly ram the whole of the area for traffic too (more so!!)
Not sure if this is the bit you mean, but there is a decent-sized chunk of land between the next and the YMCA at Handy Cross, part of which I think was the original park and ride. It would be big enough for a stadium (I think) and obviously extremely well connected to the m40/a404 with lots of parking options around. Marginally closer to town too albeit at the top of a massive hill!
There’s an Aldi and a McDonald’s going on the patch of land.
@Malone said:
Unless you mean either the cinema or land in the "middle". Although that's all been built on now too.
I think they might have long vetoed it as it would utterly ram the whole of the area for traffic too (more so!!)
Not sure if this is the bit you mean, but there is a decent-sized chunk of land between the next and the YMCA at Handy Cross, part of which I think was the original park and ride. It would be big enough for a stadium (I think) and obviously extremely well connected to the m40/a404 with lots of parking options around. Marginally closer to town too albeit at the top of a massive hill!
There’s an Aldi and a McDonald’s going on the patch of land.
@Malone said:
Unless you mean either the cinema or land in the "middle". Although that's all been built on now too.
I think they might have long vetoed it as it would utterly ram the whole of the area for traffic too (more so!!)
Not sure if this is the bit you mean, but there is a decent-sized chunk of land between the next and the YMCA at Handy Cross, part of which I think was the original park and ride. It would be big enough for a stadium (I think) and obviously extremely well connected to the m40/a404 with lots of parking options around. Marginally closer to town too albeit at the top of a massive hill!
There’s an Aldi and a McDonald’s going on the patch of land.
There’s an Aldi and a McDonald’s going on the patch of land.
Thanks - I was unaware. How bloody depressing. A cheap supermarket less than 1/4 mile away from another cheap supermarket. And a McDonald's less than 1/4 mile away from another McDonald's.
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I've always wondered how so many fans, who don't seem to be in particularly lucrative jobs, manage to go to almost every game, trousering average ticket of say £23, travel costs, booze and food costs.
Bit late now there's a huge shop, leisure centre and loads of other stuff there.
Unless you mean either the cinema or land in the "middle". Although that's all been built on now too.
I think they might have long vetoed it as it would utterly ram the whole of the area for traffic too (more so!!)
"Who don't seem to be in particularly lucrative jobs"
Jesus wept
Close to the station would be great but where’s the land? Isn’t Monaco’s pitch built on top of a shopping Centre?
Stage a revolution and claim Wycombe Abbey's land "for the people"
Honestly, the football ground should be where the hospital is.
This delusion is why you have kids shouting 'Ainsworth out@
Yep
I’ve only ever shouted ‘Ainsworth in!’. 100% support for Gaz and Dobbo, never wavered, even at the bottom of League 2.
You need to stop watching Man City!
Build a new ground on the Rye - it's massive. Then (and local councils love this) you could call it 'the sporting quarter' with the football, cricket, tennis and bowls clubs all within a stone's throw of each other.
Visiting teams and their fans could enjoy the luxury facilities on offer at the nearby Drakes Court hotel, plus a pre or post match swim at the Lido. The more fighty supporters could meet up to hire boats and pedalos to determine the afternoon's bragging rights.
Plenty of live swans available in the vicinity for a unique Wycombe-style law and order arm-breaking - meted out to any transgressors.
And let's face it, the Rye is a bit shit. Could be improved massively by putting a football stadium and car park on it.
I agree... the Rye it should be !
Just one slight issue with the Rye...
It's a flood plain.
I get a lot more pleasure from stories like AFC Wimbledon, Salford and what Macclesfield are doing now than seeing teams like Chelsea and Man City winning trophies that they have bought.
Surely the concept of sport is to come together as a team and achieve together, provide for the community and build something. Buying trophies means nothing in that sense. You lose the feeling of what sport is meant to be about.
In answer to the question, I wouldn't want it to happen to us.
I'm not sure Salford is a very good example.
You word this like it's an alternative view! I'd say almost every fan not linked to those 2 clubs doesn't like how they've gone about it.
You might want to look at your Salford example a bit closer! Hardly romantic is it?
Ok maybe not Salford - my knowledge on the subject is not that deep if I'm being honest. But for a fan of the club itself, even Salford, seeing them formed and rising through the leagues is much more of an achievement than buying their way to glory - I would much rather than that having a club funded by someone using us as his/her toy.
But you get what I mean.
@Malone - I wouldn't say almost every fan doesn't agree with it. They must love it! Most fans of this generation won't even know the difference or what it's like to support a club like ours. They will never have that "community" or family club feeling that I love about our club.
Salford's plucky rise with nary a penny to their name does bring a tear to my eye...
I bet it would if you were a fan of them.
To be fair I commented without having much knowledge of Salford's rise.
But you get the gist of what I meant from my other examples, right? Or are we ignoring those?
@thecatwwfc - I agree with your point. Top level football has lost a lot of soul and fam connectivity. If Wycombe ever disappeared, I would be looking lower in the pyramid, not higher.
Agreed, so would I. Sports loses its integrity when you buy your way to success. The whole point of "sport," is to succeed on an athletic/skill basis - 11 vs 11. Anyone can benefit from money being thrown at them. On a sporting level, although entertaining for the fans, tv and the people benefitting financially - it means absolutely nothing.
I've lost so much interest in the Premier League over the past few years.
Some people say the Rye is on a flood plain. But who's to say there's going to be any rain? #RyeOrDye
Not sure if this is the bit you mean, but there is a decent-sized chunk of land between the next and the YMCA at Handy Cross, part of which I think was the original park and ride. It would be big enough for a stadium (I think) and obviously extremely well connected to the m40/a404 with lots of parking options around. Marginally closer to town too albeit at the top of a massive hill!
.> @ReturnToSenda said:
And they never build on flood plains in Bucks...as @DevC will tell you...you'll never get planning permission.
There’s an Aldi and a McDonald’s going on the patch of land.
How many McDonald's does one town need?!
There’s always room for more fat kids and litter
Thanks - I was unaware. How bloody depressing. A cheap supermarket less than 1/4 mile away from another cheap supermarket. And a McDonald's less than 1/4 mile away from another McDonald's.
What's wrong with cheap supermarkets? Do you prefer expensive ones?