Though I like the man and have nothing against him, I would be delighted if he moved on before the transfer deadline in any kind of deal that did not involve our paying his wages. The same reasons that lead me to that view mean I think it unlikely any such deal will be forthcoming.
For sure, it's a horrible mess to watch and he seems so stubborn to change it, prick....he won't be going though so for now I'll dream of the gorman days and stay away why ainsworth is in charge
As someone else said in an earlier post, I find myself going to games to support the club and to socialise with friends. I hate the style of football we play, it is utter rubbish.
@eric_plant , if that's true that does pose some questions.
Like is he putting in the right amount of training and is he neglecting his fitness? As he either looks completely physically shot, or severely unfit. I would say I couldn't decide which if it hadn't been like this for a long while now, with the former the much likelier.
I fear it's very much a latter day United Rooney situation.
Repeated debate about what his best position is. Normally the one that he's not currently playing. Then it would be a case of "he needs legs around him", or the other players aren't servicing him correctly...etc
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For sure, it's a horrible mess to watch and he seems so stubborn to change it, prick....he won't be going though so for now I'll dream of the gorman days and stay away why ainsworth is in charge
A little confused here @bigred87. Are you staying away or not? I keep reading it but from your posts my perception is you attend, perhaps you are somebodys' wife, as most men never really understand their better halves!
Ill be staying away, iv said it many many times but against Notts county I thought to myself " why the fuck do you pay to get stressed out bitter and twisted etc."
It's funny I get stressed out about many things in life...but I find going to the football however poor the performance is not something I ever feel genuinely angry about. (Unless D.D. Hylton is playing of course...) And some people on here seem to be so angry already I don't know how they can keep it up for a whole season without a major heart attack...
I can only once ever remember getting angry at a football match. and that was at a cheating bastard ref who played about 5 minutes injury time (way back then anything over 2 minutes was unheard of) so that Enfield could equalise in a vital game many many years ago (I'm not bitter).
I can still remember sitting on the coach (Jeffways?) back thinking what a twat I was and that it was really only a bleeding' game.
Most angry I've been related to football was watching the video back of that time v QPR that the ref sent off McSporran for something Senda had done. Then realised his error and sent Senda off too.
Punishing us twice, and seemingly getting away with it.
How it must have felt at the game itself, if people realised what had happened I cannot tell.
The stuff of riots for uglier fan groups i'd imagine.
If i recall correctly, the whole playing cast were involved in the scuffle, apart from the opposition keeper and McSporran, who stayed about 50 yards away from it, and never moved.
Yet when it settled, the ref either through his sight of the incident, or his assistant's was told "skinny mixed race lad", and decided that McSporran must have hot footed it away from the incident.
How they then decided it was the wrong guy i don't know.
Any sensible ref would surely have understood the error, and just left it be, not compounded it, leaving us down to 9 in a tough away!
The thing with Hayes, is that everyone knows he can't cut it regularly anymore (although he can still pull moments of magic out of the bag, like at Spurs) but we can all agree that yelling at him for 90 mins from the terraces is no help.
Anyone calling for the return of John Gorman (lovely bloke, great football, I'll be the first to admit) should remember he had a far bigger budget to play with than Ainsworth.
On the subject of getting angry - Prosser's reffing in that QPR game was appalling, but I think the angriest ever got was when the Peterborough game was abandoned due to fog with 8 minutes to go and us 2-0 up. I had to meet my future in-laws for the first time that night and was still seething; they must have worries what their daughter was getting into.
Was it really that early in the game? I think my sense of injustice has built it up over the years. Give me a few more years and it'll have been abandoned in injury time with the Blues 5-0 up.
didn't someone get injured in the re-arranged game though? McGavin maybe?
I tend to get less angry now about stuff than I did when I was younger. I remember one trip to Bournemouth and seeing their winger Jason Brissett do two of the worst dives I'd seen and hopeless referee Paul Rejer awarding two penalties. I think Martin O'Neill might have got sent off for his protests during that game
Ah Bournemouth. I wonder what many of the fans who donated money to bail them out in their time of need now think looking at them in the Premier league frittering massive money on the likes of Ibe!
A major disappointment too, apparently. A pal of mine is a season ticket holder at Bournemouth and he was telling me months ago that they were having difficulty coaching him the Bournemouth way. An interesting comment because, not long before he went to Liverpool, GA told me that his innate talent was such that you couldn't really coach him. (Or words to that effect.)
There were a few other stories of things like him getting robbed of some super expensive watch and other things that suggested he'd massively let the trappings go to his head.
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Though I like the man and have nothing against him, I would be delighted if he moved on before the transfer deadline in any kind of deal that did not involve our paying his wages. The same reasons that lead me to that view mean I think it unlikely any such deal will be forthcoming.
Ainsworth OUT then?
For sure, it's a horrible mess to watch and he seems so stubborn to change it, prick....he won't be going though so for now I'll dream of the gorman days and stay away why ainsworth is in charge
As someone else said in an earlier post, I find myself going to games to support the club and to socialise with friends. I hate the style of football we play, it is utter rubbish.
@eric_plant , if that's true that does pose some questions.
Like is he putting in the right amount of training and is he neglecting his fitness? As he either looks completely physically shot, or severely unfit. I would say I couldn't decide which if it hadn't been like this for a long while now, with the former the much likelier.
I fear it's very much a latter day United Rooney situation.
Repeated debate about what his best position is. Normally the one that he's not currently playing. Then it would be a case of "he needs legs around him", or the other players aren't servicing him correctly...etc
@bigred87 you've been saying that for ages big. And yet you still come to be angered.
I no it's because by friday iv normally calmed down
@bigred87 keep an eye on that blood pressure!
A little confused here @bigred87. Are you staying away or not? I keep reading it but from your posts my perception is you attend, perhaps you are somebodys' wife, as most men never really understand their better halves!
Ill be staying away, iv said it many many times but against Notts county I thought to myself " why the fuck do you pay to get stressed out bitter and twisted etc."
@bigred87 because the day you actually stay away will turn out to be a crewe and you'll regret it. Its a hard life (I share your pain)
It's funny I get stressed out about many things in life...but I find going to the football however poor the performance is not something I ever feel genuinely angry about. (Unless D.D. Hylton is playing of course...) And some people on here seem to be so angry already I don't know how they can keep it up for a whole season without a major heart attack...
I can only once ever remember getting angry at a football match. and that was at a cheating bastard ref who played about 5 minutes injury time (way back then anything over 2 minutes was unheard of) so that Enfield could equalise in a vital game many many years ago (I'm not bitter).
I can still remember sitting on the coach (Jeffways?) back thinking what a twat I was and that it was really only a bleeding' game.
exactly why I should stay away, it's not good for me....
Most angry I've been related to football was watching the video back of that time v QPR that the ref sent off McSporran for something Senda had done. Then realised his error and sent Senda off too.
Punishing us twice, and seemingly getting away with it.
How it must have felt at the game itself, if people realised what had happened I cannot tell.
The stuff of riots for uglier fan groups i'd imagine.
Phil Prosser.
Jesus, I'd forgotten about that. Was it away one Boxing Day?
He kept sending off people with light brown skin until he got the right fella.
The irony being that he is mixed race himself.
That QPR game was the last time I lost my mind at a match - pure rage.
If i recall correctly, the whole playing cast were involved in the scuffle, apart from the opposition keeper and McSporran, who stayed about 50 yards away from it, and never moved.
Yet when it settled, the ref either through his sight of the incident, or his assistant's was told "skinny mixed race lad", and decided that McSporran must have hot footed it away from the incident.
How they then decided it was the wrong guy i don't know.
Any sensible ref would surely have understood the error, and just left it be, not compounded it, leaving us down to 9 in a tough away!
The thing with Hayes, is that everyone knows he can't cut it regularly anymore (although he can still pull moments of magic out of the bag, like at Spurs) but we can all agree that yelling at him for 90 mins from the terraces is no help.
I wonder how long into the season that "ball dropping nicely"/pen at Spurs Hayes reference will cut him slack
He must have traded on the "well if he can get fit he'll be good" for 18months now.
Anyone calling for the return of John Gorman (lovely bloke, great football, I'll be the first to admit) should remember he had a far bigger budget to play with than Ainsworth.
On the subject of getting angry - Prosser's reffing in that QPR game was appalling, but I think the angriest ever got was when the Peterborough game was abandoned due to fog with 8 minutes to go and us 2-0 up. I had to meet my future in-laws for the first time that night and was still seething; they must have worries what their daughter was getting into.
Yep, that was pure cheating from the Peterboro boys that day. On their arse constantly, and we got as far as 67mins or so didn't we?
One of those rare cases of justice though, as we won the re-arranged game by the same score and from the same scorers.
Was it really that early in the game? I think my sense of injustice has built it up over the years. Give me a few more years and it'll have been abandoned in injury time with the Blues 5-0 up.
didn't someone get injured in the re-arranged game though? McGavin maybe?
I tend to get less angry now about stuff than I did when I was younger. I remember one trip to Bournemouth and seeing their winger Jason Brissett do two of the worst dives I'd seen and hopeless referee Paul Rejer awarding two penalties. I think Martin O'Neill might have got sent off for his protests during that game
Ah Bournemouth. I wonder what many of the fans who donated money to bail them out in their time of need now think looking at them in the Premier league frittering massive money on the likes of Ibe!
A major disappointment too, apparently. A pal of mine is a season ticket holder at Bournemouth and he was telling me months ago that they were having difficulty coaching him the Bournemouth way. An interesting comment because, not long before he went to Liverpool, GA told me that his innate talent was such that you couldn't really coach him. (Or words to that effect.)
There were a few other stories of things like him getting robbed of some super expensive watch and other things that suggested he'd massively let the trappings go to his head.
@Malone I recall WW fans having begging buckets shaken in front of them at Huddersfield a few seasons back.
"Now look at them..."