On this occasion I'm not sure all those people were standing out of choice, I had some issues with transport on the way and arrived just on kick off, by this time the stairs were wedged full and there was no chance of getting to my seat until half time. No help at all from the stewards and not very safe all round
Agree totally about the substanced up yoofs shouting at the opposition fans and not watching the game, really quite annoying , much of it seemed to be in my left ear, doubt the intended targets could even hear it.
Rather than just throw money into the transfer pot our American owners have invested in the infrastructure of the club and have already doubled our revenue, and that together with money from player sales (we are still getting money from the Jude Bellingham sale) has enabled us to spend those obscene amounts of money recruiting players.
Also they've taken advantage of the fact that unlike the Championship, in this division the FFP rules don't include spending on transfers (incredibly), so they've tried to sign 'Championship ready' players while they have the opportunity to do so.
TBH I am somewhat embarrassed by it, but after 13 years of perpetual struggle I'll take it 😃. And even with all that money, it doesn't guarantee success, as some bigger than us clubs have found in the past. Despite our success this season Chris Davies hasn't won a single manager of the month award, and rightly so given the huge advantage he has, but that's not to say he hasn't done a great job, because he could quite easily have f*cked it up!
It does seem a bit careless not to be able to get on a bus because you have advertised who you support.
Pre game I popped into a 'home fans only' pub and enjoyed 'rat in my kitchen' playing on the speakers. Possibly the perfect Birmingham music soundtrack.
(Not a slur against Birmingham btw..easily in my top ten tracks of all time)
I made the long stroll from the train station to the ground and had a pint at (outside) The Cricketers, a lovely old boozer with no hint of trouble. Albeit it was being watched by a few coppers. I’m sure it gets more hostile when ‘bigger’ clubs with larger groups of motley idiots come to town but on the whole I found it pretty relaxed. I liked the murals and club crests dotted about and outside pubs, gave the place a sense of identity. Would be nice if our local civics could at least erect a few WWFC banners in the town or up Crendon Street. The football club is the only thing putting the town on the map after all.
We went to The Cricketers Arm for a swift pint pre-game, if that's where you mean, @williwycombe. I believe I saw our very own @Erroll_Sims stroll in as well?
I had 2 Brummies (both Villa fans) and a Scotsman with me. One of the Brummies got on and when we tried to get on they said no - I had a Wycombe jacket on. Still quite strange
I'm not the tallest and had the same problem - got wedged on the stairs. When we made our way to our seats at half time, the lads occupying my seat said "it's an away game mate, you just go where you like". To which I kindly remarked "Not if I've paid MY hard earned money to sit in MY f**king seat". Off they trotted.
Serves me right for queuing right until kick off to grab my obligatory pint I guess. Kind of glad we didn't score in the first half because I would have been bundled to the bottom!
Interesting to read that former PL referee and chief of the PGMOL Keith Hackett believes that our red card at Birmingham should have been yellow as it did not meet the criteria required for a sending off.
I have been arguing myself silly with this one for last few days! It wasn’t the best of challenges but I still cannot understand how under the laws of the game it was given as a red and I’m simply stunned how many Wycombe fans agreed with the ref’s decision. Not going to go back over old ground but pleased that a name such as Keith Hackett agrees with me. Suggests I’m not going mad.
I believed at the time that the referee was unduly influenced by Laird’s theatrical rolls and possibly by the reaction of the home fans. It was a careless challenge but not dangerous. Hackett also said that we should appeal the red card.
I would argue that while the result of the challenge wasn’t dangerous, challenges like that can be.
A full speed sprint into sliding tackle could very very easily result in serious injury. He caught him on the ankle and it was only a trapped stud or two away from ankle ligament injury or worse.
I guess the question for me would be, do we want referees to punish based on outcome or the type of challenges that go in?
I don’t necessarily completely agree with the refs decision, but I also can’t disagree with it.
Edit: Also, regarding the reaction from the Birmingham player, he may have laid it on thick, but can I remind people that sometimes tackles like that really really really flipping hurt. A lot. Especially if you’re taken a bit by surprise but it.
I maintain any hits I’ve taken on a football pitch hurt a lot more but for less time than any hit or bottom of a scrum mauling I have taken in a rugby game. Rugists literally train themselves to take and to dish out the big hits more so than footballers train to take a tackle like that one.
I know that (presumably) the highly theatrical roll and the laughing and thumbs up by Ethan Laird as he quickly got to his feet shouldn’t/couldn’t be taken into account but I felt at the time that his reaction merited a yellow card. It left a nasty taste.
Here’s his quote: Yellow card, absolute nailed on yellow, he’s got that one wrong! If I were his club I’d appeal. He might not get off because you’re dependent on who’s on the panel.
“I think if a player looks at that and he’s on the panel he’s going to say that’s a yellow and not a red.”
Glad you raised that @eric_plant. I too was curious as to why Mr Hackett added that comment but thought I might be missing something. Just a throwaway hypothetical, I suppose!
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On this occasion I'm not sure all those people were standing out of choice, I had some issues with transport on the way and arrived just on kick off, by this time the stairs were wedged full and there was no chance of getting to my seat until half time. No help at all from the stewards and not very safe all round
Agree totally about the substanced up yoofs shouting at the opposition fans and not watching the game, really quite annoying , much of it seemed to be in my left ear, doubt the intended targets could even hear it.
It was a lovely day for a walk wasn't it. If you are relatively fit..use your legs!
Rather than just throw money into the transfer pot our American owners have invested in the infrastructure of the club and have already doubled our revenue, and that together with money from player sales (we are still getting money from the Jude Bellingham sale) has enabled us to spend those obscene amounts of money recruiting players.
Also they've taken advantage of the fact that unlike the Championship, in this division the FFP rules don't include spending on transfers (incredibly), so they've tried to sign 'Championship ready' players while they have the opportunity to do so.
TBH I am somewhat embarrassed by it, but after 13 years of perpetual struggle I'll take it 😃. And even with all that money, it doesn't guarantee success, as some bigger than us clubs have found in the past. Despite our success this season Chris Davies hasn't won a single manager of the month award, and rightly so given the huge advantage he has, but that's not to say he hasn't done a great job, because he could quite easily have f*cked it up!
All the best 👍️
Great post @BobtheBlue 👍👍
You were lucky, they wouldn't let us on - only for BCFC fans apparently.
Were you kitted out in Wycombe gear?
Or were they checking home tickets or something?
I have visions of putting on a dodgy brommoiii accent to get on the bus otherwise!
It does seem a bit careless not to be able to get on a bus because you have advertised who you support.
Pre game I popped into a 'home fans only' pub and enjoyed 'rat in my kitchen' playing on the speakers. Possibly the perfect Birmingham music soundtrack.
(Not a slur against Birmingham btw..easily in my top ten tracks of all time)
I made the long stroll from the train station to the ground and had a pint at (outside) The Cricketers, a lovely old boozer with no hint of trouble. Albeit it was being watched by a few coppers. I’m sure it gets more hostile when ‘bigger’ clubs with larger groups of motley idiots come to town but on the whole I found it pretty relaxed. I liked the murals and club crests dotted about and outside pubs, gave the place a sense of identity. Would be nice if our local civics could at least erect a few WWFC banners in the town or up Crendon Street. The football club is the only thing putting the town on the map after all.
We went to The Cricketers Arm for a swift pint pre-game, if that's where you mean, @williwycombe. I believe I saw our very own @Erroll_Sims stroll in as well?
That’s the one. Two old(er) ladies pulling pints like their lives depended on it to a throng of thirsty customers.
This is my favourite post ever sir
I had 2 Brummies (both Villa fans) and a Scotsman with me. One of the Brummies got on and when we tried to get on they said no - I had a Wycombe jacket on. Still quite strange
I'm not the tallest and had the same problem - got wedged on the stairs. When we made our way to our seats at half time, the lads occupying my seat said "it's an away game mate, you just go where you like". To which I kindly remarked "Not if I've paid MY hard earned money to sit in MY f**king seat". Off they trotted.
Serves me right for queuing right until kick off to grab my obligatory pint I guess. Kind of glad we didn't score in the first half because I would have been bundled to the bottom!
Sadly no, was sat in my front room watching on WWTV & speaking in French lol
He was a very dapper looking chap too dressed in his suit, dark glasses and trilby hat. Just as well I said nothing then!
Since I was wearing my Wycombe shirt, I thought it best to stay silent. I was already in trouble for making a comment to someone I took to be a local.
Sounds like a description of The Swan in West Wycombe from the ‘90s.
In more recent times.....
Interesting to read that former PL referee and chief of the PGMOL Keith Hackett believes that our red card at Birmingham should have been yellow as it did not meet the criteria required for a sending off.
I have been arguing myself silly with this one for last few days! It wasn’t the best of challenges but I still cannot understand how under the laws of the game it was given as a red and I’m simply stunned how many Wycombe fans agreed with the ref’s decision. Not going to go back over old ground but pleased that a name such as Keith Hackett agrees with me. Suggests I’m not going mad.
I believed at the time that the referee was unduly influenced by Laird’s theatrical rolls and possibly by the reaction of the home fans. It was a careless challenge but not dangerous. Hackett also said that we should appeal the red card.
I think he also said we probably wouldn’t win the appeal
I would argue that while the result of the challenge wasn’t dangerous, challenges like that can be.
A full speed sprint into sliding tackle could very very easily result in serious injury. He caught him on the ankle and it was only a trapped stud or two away from ankle ligament injury or worse.
I guess the question for me would be, do we want referees to punish based on outcome or the type of challenges that go in?
I don’t necessarily completely agree with the refs decision, but I also can’t disagree with it.
Edit: Also, regarding the reaction from the Birmingham player, he may have laid it on thick, but can I remind people that sometimes tackles like that really really really flipping hurt. A lot. Especially if you’re taken a bit by surprise but it.
I maintain any hits I’ve taken on a football pitch hurt a lot more but for less time than any hit or bottom of a scrum mauling I have taken in a rugby game. Rugists literally train themselves to take and to dish out the big hits more so than footballers train to take a tackle like that one.
The last paragraph sums up my view as well.
Sorry for the edit- I assume you mean the agree/disagree bit? (For clarity to others)
I know that (presumably) the highly theatrical roll and the laughing and thumbs up by Ethan Laird as he quickly got to his feet shouldn’t/couldn’t be taken into account but I felt at the time that his reaction merited a yellow card. It left a nasty taste.
Here’s his quote: Yellow card, absolute nailed on yellow, he’s got that one wrong! If I were his club I’d appeal. He might not get off because you’re dependent on who’s on the panel.
“I think if a player looks at that and he’s on the panel he’s going to say that’s a yellow and not a red.”
Yes. @Blue_since_1990’s comment preceded your edit.
What relevance is it what a player would say?
Glad you raised that @eric_plant. I too was curious as to why Mr Hackett added that comment but thought I might be missing something. Just a throwaway hypothetical, I suppose!
I think he meant there is usually a player (or ex player) on the appeal panel?