Some wild opinions knocking about tonight. Might have added to it a bit myself by saying the 2nd half was shit.
end of the day though, I’m 100% sure the complaints aimed at Dodds this evening were also aimed at Gaz and Blooms in there first weeks/months (especially in regards to subs)
the 2nd half was shit, but people need to chill a bit. It was still a point away from home at a team that’s scored 6 in there previous 2 and fighting for there lives.
Yes today wasn't great and I do think we got it wrong tactically in the second half by letting them ruffle us and us resorting to hoofball. I also think our midfield ran out of ideas around 55-60 minutes & Simmons should have been put on for Leahy then. I also felt we persevered with Fred & GMac for too long & they should have been subbed earlier.
Whilst it wasn't great, most importantly we didn't lose.
Our form hasn't been great since before Xmas with us averaging around 1.5 pts per game, which isn't going to be good enough long term, thankfully our earlier form was significantly better & we can hopefully get back to that with the resources we have available.
We have had mid season blips before & no doubt will again, but mostly we bounced back - fingers crossed we do so again.
I genuinely think we will, at worst, make the playoffs, at best we will hang on to 2nd spot. The run in is going to be nail biting not just for us but everyone from 2nd to at least 8th.
Losing Kone is disappointing but not the problem - Udoh led the line well, held the ball up well, scored a goal. The problem comes with the style of play and poor performing personnel further back.
Dodds needs to show he gets it and this sort of performance is not acceptable. A major step up required on Tuesday. There were plenty of questions over his ability to pick a team and exert control from his Sunderland days. He needs to answer some of those questions soon or suggestions we picked the wrong man will only amplify.
You have this completly wrong in my opinion . I think a lot of fans considered that he was not going to change from what we had done up until Bloomfiled left . I certainly didn't consider he would be thinking our performances and style since Bloomfleld left (and under caretaker managers) were what he was going to maintain . This has been a pale shadow as to how we were and was a slide back yo longball football .Today was a carbon copy of that .As far as the new signings go there has been a consistant confusion as to why they are not more involed for weeks now . This hasn't suddenly appeared since todays game. As for calling your fellow fans "vermin" for expressing opinions that you don't agree with I think you need to calm down a bit pal .
I don’t think the impact of the replacement of Ravizzoli with a ‘keeper who is not comfortable on the ball should be underestimated. Subtle changes in approach are inevitable when a new head coach comes in but the welcome decision to opt for continuity of personnel was completely undermined by the failure of the slick passing approach to survive beyond the first half hour or so.
To be fair, we had already started to be more direct soon after Matt Bloomfield’s departure but Crawley’s unexpectedly robust approach (arguably in response to a noticeably more physical approach from our own boys) led to a scrappy foul-ridden and singularly unedifying encounter.
You probably needed to be there or to have watched a live broadcast to understand how disappointing that performance was.
Fortunately these are early days but the mysterious absence of involvement of most of last month’s new signings only serves to reinforce the disconcerting feeling that our steady march towards automatic promotion may be stumbling. Such a contrast with last year’s signings. So much is new and strange.
we’ve lost impetus by playing at Skura at right back given how we look to attack from full back positions. The returns of Pattenden or even Grimmer should sort this.
Lack of a Morley. Hopefully Simmonds is the answer.
Having a pre-game plan of attacking subs around the hour mark. “the finishers” made us a real threat in second half. No idea what the second half plan was today.
The three problems I’ve identified can hopefully be sorted easily.
The Kone problem can’t. Sadly we don’t know how long he is out for as the club seem to be a bit secretive on this (suggesting bad news) and his fitness does not seem to have been addressed in pressers.
Didn’t see the game today, but nobody gave a down vote to this post by @flymofrank just before half time, so maybe the new manager just needs a bit more that 2 matches. In 120 mins and then 90 mins we’ve conceded just 1 goal which was an absolute belter, and we haven’t got the guy playing up top who fired us up to the top 2.
Relax everyone! I’d be way more pi55ed if he made lots of changes and we’d had a bad game.
Skura was fine, just doesn't bomb forward like we'd want. But we're a bit restricted there at the moment by injuries. Not ideal, I know, and perhaps we need to work out how to get around it better, but that's not on Skura. He's still a kid, let's not forget.
Regarding the pressers, I love almost everything that Phil does but he is never going to be the guy that asks the difficult questions we all want the answers to, and push those points. while employed by the club.
Please describe the vermin like actions of these fans so I can undertstand why it is justifiable to compair them to the lowest forms of life . Or is just like Angela Rayner calling conservatives scum because of politial differences ?
Vermin?!? Seriously? We live in such a strange time where you can’t express an opinion without having vile comments thrown back at you If it doesn’t fit a narrative. Pretty certain nobody on here would call someone that in person if you were discussing at the pub.
It’s great to have robust discussions and disagreements but name calling is just silly.
With 16 league games left to play this season, it suggests we might struggle to repeat the 83 points we earned to finish in 6th place in the 2021/22 season.
We just need to hope Simons is a suitable replacement, his cameo today gives some hope that that could be the case. Pleased to hear Dodds also references the calmness he seemed to bring
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Some wild opinions knocking about tonight. Might have added to it a bit myself by saying the 2nd half was shit.
end of the day though, I’m 100% sure the complaints aimed at Dodds this evening were also aimed at Gaz and Blooms in there first weeks/months (especially in regards to subs)
the 2nd half was shit, but people need to chill a bit. It was still a point away from home at a team that’s scored 6 in there previous 2 and fighting for there lives.
Wow
Yes today wasn't great and I do think we got it wrong tactically in the second half by letting them ruffle us and us resorting to hoofball. I also think our midfield ran out of ideas around 55-60 minutes & Simmons should have been put on for Leahy then. I also felt we persevered with Fred & GMac for too long & they should have been subbed earlier.
Whilst it wasn't great, most importantly we didn't lose.
Our form hasn't been great since before Xmas with us averaging around 1.5 pts per game, which isn't going to be good enough long term, thankfully our earlier form was significantly better & we can hopefully get back to that with the resources we have available.
We have had mid season blips before & no doubt will again, but mostly we bounced back - fingers crossed we do so again.
I genuinely think we will, at worst, make the playoffs, at best we will hang on to 2nd spot. The run in is going to be nail biting not just for us but everyone from 2nd to at least 8th.
Losing Kone is disappointing but not the problem - Udoh led the line well, held the ball up well, scored a goal. The problem comes with the style of play and poor performing personnel further back.
Dodds needs to show he gets it and this sort of performance is not acceptable. A major step up required on Tuesday. There were plenty of questions over his ability to pick a team and exert control from his Sunderland days. He needs to answer some of those questions soon or suggestions we picked the wrong man will only amplify.
You have this completly wrong in my opinion . I think a lot of fans considered that he was not going to change from what we had done up until Bloomfiled left . I certainly didn't consider he would be thinking our performances and style since Bloomfleld left (and under caretaker managers) were what he was going to maintain . This has been a pale shadow as to how we were and was a slide back yo longball football .Today was a carbon copy of that .As far as the new signings go there has been a consistant confusion as to why they are not more involed for weeks now . This hasn't suddenly appeared since todays game. As for calling your fellow fans "vermin" for expressing opinions that you don't agree with I think you need to calm down a bit pal .
Wycombe has ALWAYS had vermin fans. BWK James.
Ainsworth and Bloomfield didn’t take over teams in second.
But in any case, it isn’t Dodds who has just signed a shedload of players who aren’t ready to contribute to our promotion battle.
Mansfield H, Bolton H, Charlton A, Huddersfield H.
all games very similar to today, oh and all before Blooms left, don’t rewrite history to suit your narrative
I don’t think the impact of the replacement of Ravizzoli with a ‘keeper who is not comfortable on the ball should be underestimated. Subtle changes in approach are inevitable when a new head coach comes in but the welcome decision to opt for continuity of personnel was completely undermined by the failure of the slick passing approach to survive beyond the first half hour or so.
To be fair, we had already started to be more direct soon after Matt Bloomfield’s departure but Crawley’s unexpectedly robust approach (arguably in response to a noticeably more physical approach from our own boys) led to a scrappy foul-ridden and singularly unedifying encounter.
You probably needed to be there or to have watched a live broadcast to understand how disappointing that performance was.
Fortunately these are early days but the mysterious absence of involvement of most of last month’s new signings only serves to reinforce the disconcerting feeling that our steady march towards automatic promotion may be stumbling. Such a contrast with last year’s signings. So much is new and strange.
I’d go a step further and say all football fans are vermin. BFK.
Losing Kone is a major part of the problem.
The other problems:
The three problems I’ve identified can hopefully be sorted easily.
The Kone problem can’t. Sadly we don’t know how long he is out for as the club seem to be a bit secretive on this (suggesting bad news) and his fitness does not seem to have been addressed in pressers.
Didn’t see the game today, but nobody gave a down vote to this post by @flymofrank just before half time, so maybe the new manager just needs a bit more that 2 matches. In 120 mins and then 90 mins we’ve conceded just 1 goal which was an absolute belter, and we haven’t got the guy playing up top who fired us up to the top 2.
Relax everyone! I’d be way more pi55ed if he made lots of changes and we’d had a bad game.
Has anyone mentioned the handball shout in the second half yet? Looked pretty nailed on from where I was stood.
Skura was fine, just doesn't bomb forward like we'd want. But we're a bit restricted there at the moment by injuries. Not ideal, I know, and perhaps we need to work out how to get around it better, but that's not on Skura. He's still a kid, let's not forget.
Regarding the pressers, I love almost everything that Phil does but he is never going to be the guy that asks the difficult questions we all want the answers to, and push those points. while employed by the club.
And BFP James is, well, BFP James.
Please describe the vermin like actions of these fans so I can undertstand why it is justifiable to compair them to the lowest forms of life . Or is just like Angela Rayner calling conservatives scum because of politial differences ?
Being notoriously fickle.
For those referencing our League One form this season.
With Matt Bloomfield: P25 W15 D6 L4 F50 A27 GD+23 PTS 51 Win percentage: 60%
Without Matt Bloomfield: P5 W2 D3 L0 F6 A4 GD+2 PTS 9 Win percentage: 40%
Since Aaron Morley was recalled: P7 W2 D4 L1 F7 A6 GD+1 PTS 10 Win percentage: 29%
PTSD
Vermin?!? Seriously? We live in such a strange time where you can’t express an opinion without having vile comments thrown back at you If it doesn’t fit a narrative. Pretty certain nobody on here would call someone that in person if you were discussing at the pub.
It’s great to have robust discussions and disagreements but name calling is just silly.
‘Wycombe fans are vermin’ has been a Gasroom meme since before people called them memes
Wasn't Angela Rayner just spitting facts?
If Wycombe fans don’t want to be called vernin, we should stop acting like vermin
also, what ever happened to “stick and stones my break my bones”
Who do people think was the bigger loss, Bloomfield or Morley? 100% Bloomfield for me.
Unfortunately I only saw the 2nd half, it was dull.
And back in the mists of time when shimmering apes roamed the Gasroom.
Shimmering ape is an all time classic.
Back in the days where incredible scenes was the hip expression. Before it was watered down to mere "scenes".
Before that evolved to "limbs".
Not sure what the kids say now. Probably something even shorter if the dynamic continues.
Perhaps the more relevant statistic regarding our league form without Aaron Morley is the one which applies to the full season.
P11 W3 D5 L3 F12 A13 GD -1 PTS 14 Win percentage: 27%
With 16 league games left to play this season, it suggests we might struggle to repeat the 83 points we earned to finish in 6th place in the 2021/22 season.
We just need to hope Simons is a suitable replacement, his cameo today gives some hope that that could be the case. Pleased to hear Dodds also references the calmness he seemed to bring
I think ‘if’ is fair. No wins from Northampton, Cambridge and Crawley and far harder games on the horizon 80 points might not be enough for play offs
Is it opposite day in South Bucks?
I can't think of a
softernicer bunch of people in football. What next? The Swan in West Wycombe is Britain's hardest pub?