So what if there was a major disagreement between the two parties? Has that never happened to any of you in the world of work? You try and make the best of it while looking for a way out. The stakes are higher in football than in most industries, but if that's what's happened then it's hardly Earth-shattering news.
I don’t disagree with that. But if you’re the one in charge and that disagreement leads to the guy who has given his all for Wycombe for 20 years and got us to second in League One leaving, then that reflects badly on you.
At the end of the day, if the head of football ops (or equivalent) and manager/HC aren't on the same page, that's not going to benefit the club. It's a shame, but what's happened has happened.
Just listened to the three counties interview and the more I think about it the less sympathy I’m starting to have for Bloomfield here.
Whether he likes it or not the game is changing, who is he to dictate club policy on transfers?
He’s ditched us at a crucial time in the season, if it wasn’t working for him he could have departed in the summer and he would have had job opportunities landing on his desk. Maybe not of the riches that Luton were offering but solid jobs.
The owners could have also got rid in the summer if he wasn’t “their man”. Perhaps it took until now for things to get bad enough he felt the need to move on, I guess we’ll never know. Good luck to Matt, I hope he does well and let’s be honest we could be in for an exciting end to the season ourselves. We are being linked with by our standards some high profile names.
So @Vincey you're suggesting that Matt should have opted to stay until the summer because that's better for us, but acknowledging it might have been not so good for him?
He's been loyal to Wycombe for 20 years but he has loyalties to his wife as family as well. I think it's perfectly correct he puts loyalty to his family above loyalty to a football club.
It’s a hobby and a sport for us but it’s a job for Matt. He’s gone to a supposed bigger club who have offered him lots more money and a 3.5 contract and it is nearer his home. Good luck to him if that is what he wanted.
We move on and I was personally devastated when MON left us but it didn’t stop me supporting our club and this departure certainly won’t.
To be fair, if it were not for ITKs saying what they can about Dan Rice without betraying their sources, we might all be calling Matt Bloomfield a disloyal snake who was never a good manager anyway (see: Facebook).
If it is a choice of no-one saying anything and everyone blaming Blooms without context, or people who cannot betray sources saying what they can, which would you prefer, genuinely?
I know the ITK thing can be annoying (and is to a lot of people in this current scenario), but in this case I would say it is clearly all out of loyalty to Blooms, not wanting his name dragged through the mud unfairly. There is a lot of consistency with what is being said, and some major smoking guns along the way that everyone saw (Blooms brother's rant, unceremoniously sacking people around Blooms, etc.).
Nothing wrong with giving Dan Rice the benefit of the doubt if that is your perspective, but mocking people who may be genuinely upset/distraught at how a club legend has been treated doesn't really help.
Haven't heard or read everything but definitely in the opposite camp right now.
Firstly he owes us nothing, 20 years as a player, concussions and all, dumped Col U in seconds to come back here. After a tricky start he's grown the squad and taken us to the top of League One..and then had his mate sacked despite doing a good job and the vibes at least suggest he's had people working against him, picking players for signing and approaches against his wishes and cutting across what he's doing even though it's working.
Money ball type approaches are all good if you are short of money, doing badly or trying to be clever, I fear we have the latter.
Also let's be honest Luton are a horrible club in an even worse town and in a bit of a mess but the squad and resources are way above the position they are in. Hope he does well I suppose. No idea where we are going.
I’d argue you that WWFC and its fans have also been loyal to Bloomfield for 20 years.
Let’s be honest, fantastic pro who gave his all for us every time he crossed the white line but I don’t remember any clubs falling over themselves trying to sign him from us.
He also didn’t do a particularly great job at recruitment the season before last, Keogh, Breckin etc. 1 win in 17.
A fantastic turnaround since then but he’s been fortunate to have a very competitive league one budget to work with. A far cry from the Ainsworth days where we could barely fill the subs bench.
There’s two sides to every story. That said, this is a sad day and he’s been a fantastic servant to this football club.
Facebook is about five minutes away from "He is a snake and an awful player who only managed us to deliberately pull out the rug from under us, and his family are secretly from Luton going back generations."
The Couhig period was brilliant, it had that perfect balance of charisma and entertainment off the pitch and results on it. They also put their money where their mouths were too, allowing Gaz to make some very important signings as soon as they took over. For God's sake they even managed to create a Wycombe fans group in Spain!
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So what if there was a major disagreement between the two parties? Has that never happened to any of you in the world of work? You try and make the best of it while looking for a way out. The stakes are higher in football than in most industries, but if that's what's happened then it's hardly Earth-shattering news.
I don’t disagree with that. But if you’re the one in charge and that disagreement leads to the guy who has given his all for Wycombe for 20 years and got us to second in League One leaving, then that reflects badly on you.
See you next game
I'm sure, in an ideal world, we'd like that to be a factor in DR's thinking, but I think it's an unrealistic expectation in such a cutthroat industry.
Is that a threat? 😂
He'll be back, we'll all be back.
At the end of the day, if the head of football ops (or equivalent) and manager/HC aren't on the same page, that's not going to benefit the club. It's a shame, but what's happened has happened.
He laid it out quite emphatically how much he enjoys being part of the recruitment process and was excited to do that at Luton.
Just listened to the three counties interview and the more I think about it the less sympathy I’m starting to have for Bloomfield here.
Whether he likes it or not the game is changing, who is he to dictate club policy on transfers?
He’s ditched us at a crucial time in the season, if it wasn’t working for him he could have departed in the summer and he would have had job opportunities landing on his desk. Maybe not of the riches that Luton were offering but solid jobs.
You know what, you clueless, tin-foil hat wearing truthers, the fact that Matty has mentioned:
1) Being somewhere that wants him
2) Being somewhere that lets him make recruitment decisions
does all sound rather familiar...
The owners could have also got rid in the summer if he wasn’t “their man”. Perhaps it took until now for things to get bad enough he felt the need to move on, I guess we’ll never know. Good luck to Matt, I hope he does well and let’s be honest we could be in for an exciting end to the season ourselves. We are being linked with by our standards some high profile names.
So @Vincey you're suggesting that Matt should have opted to stay until the summer because that's better for us, but acknowledging it might have been not so good for him?
He's been loyal to Wycombe for 20 years but he has loyalties to his wife as family as well. I think it's perfectly correct he puts loyalty to his family above loyalty to a football club.
It’s a hobby and a sport for us but it’s a job for Matt. He’s gone to a supposed bigger club who have offered him lots more money and a 3.5 contract and it is nearer his home. Good luck to him if that is what he wanted.
We move on and I was personally devastated when MON left us but it didn’t stop me supporting our club and this departure certainly won’t.
Are you deliberately ignoring the fact that he said the other night he wanted, and was involved in bringing Bradley to the club ?
Have you listened to the interview?
Not at all. Just writing what he said and he was quite clear to point it out.
To be fair, if it were not for ITKs saying what they can about Dan Rice without betraying their sources, we might all be calling Matt Bloomfield a disloyal snake who was never a good manager anyway (see: Facebook).
If it is a choice of no-one saying anything and everyone blaming Blooms without context, or people who cannot betray sources saying what they can, which would you prefer, genuinely?
I know the ITK thing can be annoying (and is to a lot of people in this current scenario), but in this case I would say it is clearly all out of loyalty to Blooms, not wanting his name dragged through the mud unfairly. There is a lot of consistency with what is being said, and some major smoking guns along the way that everyone saw (Blooms brother's rant, unceremoniously sacking people around Blooms, etc.).
Nothing wrong with giving Dan Rice the benefit of the doubt if that is your perspective, but mocking people who may be genuinely upset/distraught at how a club legend has been treated doesn't really help.
Haven't heard or read everything but definitely in the opposite camp right now.
Firstly he owes us nothing, 20 years as a player, concussions and all, dumped Col U in seconds to come back here. After a tricky start he's grown the squad and taken us to the top of League One..and then had his mate sacked despite doing a good job and the vibes at least suggest he's had people working against him, picking players for signing and approaches against his wishes and cutting across what he's doing even though it's working.
Money ball type approaches are all good if you are short of money, doing badly or trying to be clever, I fear we have the latter.
Also let's be honest Luton are a horrible club in an even worse town and in a bit of a mess but the squad and resources are way above the position they are in. Hope he does well I suppose. No idea where we are going.
April will be a tough month if you got the calendar for Christmas.
At least Plymouth had Rooney in January. Only another couple of weeks.
Perhaps the club will sell a Danuard insert for the believers?
When it comes round to citing his disloyalty to Colchester and the fact that Bloomfield was actually a ****, time to bow out.
No RTB on Wycombe Sound as yet.......
I’d argue you that WWFC and its fans have also been loyal to Bloomfield for 20 years.
Let’s be honest, fantastic pro who gave his all for us every time he crossed the white line but I don’t remember any clubs falling over themselves trying to sign him from us.
He also didn’t do a particularly great job at recruitment the season before last, Keogh, Breckin etc. 1 win in 17.
A fantastic turnaround since then but he’s been fortunate to have a very competitive league one budget to work with. A far cry from the Ainsworth days where we could barely fill the subs bench.
There’s two sides to every story. That said, this is a sad day and he’s been a fantastic servant to this football club.
Facebook is about five minutes away from "He is a snake and an awful player who only managed us to deliberately pull out the rug from under us, and his family are secretly from Luton going back generations."
I lose track is @prufrock_91 an ITK?
Where does it say Blooms has been prevented from playing certain players?
The Couhig period was brilliant, it had that perfect balance of charisma and entertainment off the pitch and results on it. They also put their money where their mouths were too, allowing Gaz to make some very important signings as soon as they took over. For God's sake they even managed to create a Wycombe fans group in Spain!
Remember the good old days when this thread was about the terminal velocity of various objects?
It’ll be really nice to get back to talking about the games and players etc.