I thought the same but then I went a step further and thought maybe the club wouldn’t give him another contract now and feel the money we could get for him this month could be spent better elsewhere.
Anything seems possible now, especially as ML can spend what he likes on transfer fees without it effecting SCMP. Lows sale would seriously improve the wages we could spend this year. If Low goes for £1M we can spend 60% of that on wages.
This data driven malarkey has me confused. How did we win a World Cup without it. I really sense a bit of tension between Rice and Bloomfield. Both go on about the data but are they really in tune and singing from the same hymn sheet. Bloomfield seems a little irked by incoming transfers like he doesn’t really have any knowledge of them. Rice seems a pretty ruthless kind of guy which may make Bloomfield consider his longer term future as a knife may be hovering over his back. Pure conjecture of course but I’ve met many a type of Mr Rice in my working life and I’m not sure if I’d trust him with a bargepole. Of course all in the garden may be rosy and I hope it is!
Blooms literally said in interview that he was interested in Bradley, and had personally spoken to Paul Warne about him ! Yes he probably didn't know anything about these Danish lads, that's defo data lead, but to say he hasn't had any say at all in transfers can't be true.
In fairness, Reep was a bit of a dinosaur. I see what that article is saying, but it's also worth reading Jonathan Wilson's take in Inverting the Pyramid.
If this was CM01/02 (arguably the greatest of the Championship Manager series), Dan Rice would have tried to sign a non-existent Portuguese player who was created as part of testing but wasn't deleted, and also leveraged Lomtadze's diplomatic clout to secure a visa for a Bielorussian striker who happens to be the greatest player the world has never seen. Oh, and would have signed Cherno Samba.
Data driven is nothing new. Databases of footballers and their qualities have existed for decades. Suggesting MB and Rice are at odds in anyway is completely without foundation. Just because Scott Mitchell or his predecessors aren’t there saying ‘look at this lad’ doesn’t mean someone is. We are simply flagging up players that might be undervalued by in some way. When we signed Harvie it was on the basis he was not playing in a particular way at Franchise.
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I thought the same but then I went a step further and thought maybe the club wouldn’t give him another contract now and feel the money we could get for him this month could be spent better elsewhere.
Anything seems possible now, especially as ML can spend what he likes on transfer fees without it effecting SCMP. Lows sale would seriously improve the wages we could spend this year. If Low goes for £1M we can spend 60% of that on wages.
Huge gamble but one I suspect Dan Rice will take.
Turned down a move to Spain in order to come to……..England.
Secretly, every player on earth would love to wear those blue quarters. There is not a finer kit on earth, especially the current look.
Decent random quoting that.
Hilarious comment from the doc.
This data driven malarkey has me confused. How did we win a World Cup without it. I really sense a bit of tension between Rice and Bloomfield. Both go on about the data but are they really in tune and singing from the same hymn sheet. Bloomfield seems a little irked by incoming transfers like he doesn’t really have any knowledge of them. Rice seems a pretty ruthless kind of guy which may make Bloomfield consider his longer term future as a knife may be hovering over his back. Pure conjecture of course but I’ve met many a type of Mr Rice in my working life and I’m not sure if I’d trust him with a bargepole. Of course all in the garden may be rosy and I hope it is!
Do we think Bloomfield is just a coach who has no impact on incomings and goings?
Seems more likely he's more involved than that?
This data driven malarkey has me confused.
Almost as confusing as the quote button
Blooms literally said in interview that he was interested in Bradley, and had personally spoken to Paul Warne about him ! Yes he probably didn't know anything about these Danish lads, that's defo data lead, but to say he hasn't had any say at all in transfers can't be true.
You do know we're not just looking at a data sheet and going, 'Sign him!', right...?
As for how we won a World Cup without it, that was almost 60 years ago and football has evolved just a tad since then...?
Obviously.
We're running a championship manager sim and these are the players that crop up right?
Plus running them past Micra to make sure they meet his height requirements.
Data analysis in football predates our World Cup win: https://www.nutmegmagazine.co.uk/issue-8/dont-shoot-the-messenger-the-first-football-analyst-was-a-pioneer-50-years-ahead-of-his-time/
And tbf, the '66 team was pretty revolutionary for the time, playing without wingers.
In fairness, Reep was a bit of a dinosaur. I see what that article is saying, but it's also worth reading Jonathan Wilson's take in Inverting the Pyramid.
Obvious question then - how long before "every" club uses data for signings if it's that obvious!
Not very - I assume most at our level already are, to varying degrees
i’m sure it’s just not data , would think when identified the player is watched . Don’t believe they would just bid on data alone.
It's exactly that, a combination
I just came here to say the same thing. I think it was the interview with Moose.
I would expect it to be a combination of data, watching the player in a number of live games plus some sort of character check.
Yep could you imagine.
You sign someone who is the ultimate stats hero and he's less mobile than the oldest guy in the terrace.
I always wonder about that last one.
Surely every club would do that, yet there's still absolute Bartons who keep getting signed.
Yes agreed.
Depends how thorough the 'character check' is. Some clubs seem to have a higher moral threshold than others.
We have goal-line technology for one…
If this was CM01/02 (arguably the greatest of the Championship Manager series), Dan Rice would have tried to sign a non-existent Portuguese player who was created as part of testing but wasn't deleted, and also leveraged Lomtadze's diplomatic clout to secure a visa for a Bielorussian striker who happens to be the greatest player the world has never seen. Oh, and would have signed Cherno Samba.
*Cough* Arsenal *Cough*
Peter Taylor didn't seem parrticularly bothered about a few checks either did he?
Data driven is nothing new. Databases of footballers and their qualities have existed for decades. Suggesting MB and Rice are at odds in anyway is completely without foundation. Just because Scott Mitchell or his predecessors aren’t there saying ‘look at this lad’ doesn’t mean someone is. We are simply flagging up players that might be undervalued by in some way. When we signed Harvie it was on the basis he was not playing in a particular way at Franchise.
Evolution not revolution in my eyes.