@Blueword While everyone there freely admits that MB has made mistakes during his time in charge of the club and we can easily list them off. However, what do you gain from always being negative? Have you ever made a mistake? Have you had a family member/boss/colleague always picking holes in the decisions you have made again and again. If you have, I feel sorry for you.....
Is it worth your time and effort to keep digging and digging at the management of a club that you "support"? Without this management, it is possible that we might not have a club at all, or if it was around, we wouldn't have seen the positive times that we have experienced recently.
So, my suggestion to you is that once you've made a point, good or bad, just stop. Sometimes it creates some interesting discussions but when you keep going on,
and on,
and on,
and on, it does get very boring and you isolate yourself from everyone. What's the point? If you feel that strongly about it, make a facebook group or a "X" hashtag or videos on Youtube. All of them prob take the same or less time to create and maintain, you get to air your views and maybe someone will actually listen....
You have mentioned already that you won't be renewing your ST, that's fair enough, it's your life & money but this line has been used by different users sharing your exact same view which is why we all know who you are. Change tactic, move on and try and see the world in a more positive light.
Ignore. He talks bollocks to get people to bite then insults someone and then gets banned. I doubt he has a season ticket.
Anyone concerned about our defensive frailties should remember we once had a centre back pairing of Michael Duberry and Luke Oliver.
Well, thanks a bunch for bringing me back to earth with a bang #MindlessDrugHoover. I thought I'd finally managed to eradicate the memory of that particular pairing from my grey cells.
Seeing quite a bit of stick on here and on Twitter for the decision to move Keogh on - where were these Keogh truthers the last few weeks when he was widely held up as someone who shouldn’t start?!
I actually see this as a positive piece of management and shows Blooms isn’t afraid to have the difficult decisions when required, also hopefully frees up some of the wage budget and gives more playing time guarantees to Taf, Low and Forino.
We do now look a little lighter at CB depth wise of course, but maybe there’s a plan there.
A truly dreadful signing. A 37 year old who had just gone through a massive operation following that stupid drunk driving incident. He hadn’t played regular football in years. He’s thick as mince judging by his interviews. Has to be one of the worst signings in recent history, which is even more grating because it was so predictable. Looks like we’re moving in the right direction by letting him go, although every transfer move made in January so far makes us even more predictable to opposition. This crop of players can no longer play a back five. It’s beginning to scream ‘panic’ after we spent so much time and money investing into the back five.
You are entitled to be critical of his football ability but calling someone I presume you have never met ‘as thick as mince’ is uncalled for. Anyone who has met him will vouch for the fact that Keogh is a very likable person and in any case, footballers should be judged on their ability on the pitch, not their academic talents.
Do those Gasroomers offering up a “back in my day it was worse” approach want a medal? Of course Keogh wasn’t as bad as Duberry and Luke Oliver. That was:
1) 15 years ago - football has come a long way in the lower tiers since then
2) In a lower division
3) Playing for a much lower budget Wycombe Wanderers
I'm not sure how it works in football, but in most businesses an announcement that someone is 'leaving by mutual consent to pursue other opportunities', generally is code for 'We no longer require your services, but to avoid embarrassment and negative publicity, if you agree to resign with immediate effect, we'll pay you £x and call it a day'.
He was probably on a one year contract, so we may have had to pay some proportion of the remainder.
I'm not sure how it works in football, but in most businesses an announcement that someone is 'leaving by mutual consent to pursue other opportunities', generally is code for 'We no longer require your services, but to avoid embarrassment and negative publicity, if you agree to resign with immediate effect, we'll pay you £x and call it a day'.
He was probably on a one year contract, so we may have had to pay some proportion of the remainder.
I'm guessing that a fee has been agreed. It would be lower than terminating his contract out-right but a deal that works for both parties. It might have been for free if he's got a deal lined up with a club that can't pay a fee or that offers to pay him more or closer to home or at a "bigger" club, just like Arteta and Aubameyang at Arsenal (if you believe what you watch on the Amazon series).
Probably the right thing, it just seemed a season too far.
Sad it didn't work out for him though, I met him at the season ticket refund waiver day (rolls off the tongue that) over the summer and had a long chat with him. Seemed like a really nice bloke, intelligent too (that's for the idiot above who described him as "thick as mince"). Was really good with the kids who were there as well, as were all the players.
Probably the right thing, it just seemed a season too far.
Sad it didn't work out for him though, I met him at the season ticket refund waiver day (rolls off the tongue that) over the summer and had a long chat with him. Seemed like a really nice bloke, intelligent too (that's for the idiot above who described him as "thick as mince"). Was really good with the kids who were there as well, as were all the players.
Good luck for the future Keezy
Before the Bristol Rovers match he was taking the defence through some drills and I thought aha! Useful to have someone not in the match side, but helping out the team, so I assumed he was looking at heading into coaching.
A truly dreadful signing. A 37 year old who had just gone through a massive operation following that stupid drunk driving incident. He hadn’t played regular football in years. He’s thick as mince judging by his interviews. Has to be one of the worst signings in recent history, which is even more grating because it was so predictable. Looks like we’re moving in the right direction by letting him go, although every transfer move made in January so far makes us even more predictable to opposition. This crop of players can no longer play a back five. It’s beginning to scream ‘panic’ after we spent so much time and money investing into the back five.
Are you permanently locked on furiously aggressive negative mode? It's really grating.
Really surprised to see that people see any of this in any way controversial or evidence of awful/brilliant management by MB.
There was clearly rationale behind the signing of Keogh in the first place. An experienced, once more-than-capable defender at our level, someone with the ability to pass it out of defence and someone MB clearly knew.
It probably didn't work out as hoped for by all parties, but I would think that is probably because his best playing days are clearly behind him and a lack of stability in what turned out to be an ever-rotating back 3/4/5/9.
I don't think he was as bad as some others are making out - more latter day Adam El-Abd, but I think a mutual agreement to part ways is the right thing for both parties at the moment.
That was a horrible summer. We had the Hayes scenario demanding the club or he was off, meaning we were in limbo and ended up in the bargain bin for signings. Relations, or well past their best vets.
Duberry's "we're not here to make up the numbers" battle cry before a woeful start to the season is the stuff of nightmares.
You obviously had something going on that other week where you seemed to be trying to rack up the highest amount of disapproval ever seen on the gasroom, but no you're generally in and around a reasoned take to how we're currently doing.
Best wishes to Richard on his next move, not really worked out here and I suspect he will either retire or get a player/coach role in Non League.
Quality player in his time but father time has caught up with him and at 37 the rigours of League One have not been possible for him this season.
Now we only need two CB's playing in a four. We have cover with Low, Taf and Forino with Grimmer very able to play CB as he has in the past. An experienced quick LB is what we need now.
Haydon Roberts at Bristol City might be worth a look.
Wasn't Frank Sinclair pretty rubbish too or am I misremembering?
No, I think he was fairly reasonable.
Duberry, Oliver, Westwood were a really poor set of options that season.
I remember being at Norwich for the 5-2 defeat, and their 5th goal was literally wandering through out defence. That was probably the low point of their defending.
Seemed to be a very good pro but just a little slow for L1 nowadays. Sensible decision from all parties and may allow us to sign someone else.
Really enjoyed his first spell at Wycombe and every summer for a number of years was hoping he would return and always kept an eye out for his performances elsewhere.
Wish him all the best for the future. Thanks Richard!
Duberry, Oliver, Westwood were a really poor set of options that season.
I remember being at Norwich for the 5-2 defeat, and their 5th goal was literally wandering through out defence. That was probably the low point of their defending.
Fair enough, I think I'm getting my 90s Chelsea CBs who came to Wycombe mixed up
@Blueword While everyone there freely admits that MB has made mistakes during his time in charge of the club and we can easily list them off. However, what do you gain from always being negative? Have you ever made a mistake? Have you had a family member/boss/colleague always picking holes in the decisions you have made again and again. If you have, I feel sorry for you.....
Is it worth your time and effort to keep digging and digging at the management of a club that you "support"? Without this management, it is possible that we might not have a club at all, or if it was around, we wouldn't have seen the positive times that we have experienced recently.
So, my suggestion to you is that once you've made a point, good or bad, just stop. Sometimes it creates some interesting discussions but when you keep going on,
and on,
and on,
and on, it does get very boring and you isolate yourself from everyone. What's the point? If you feel that strongly about it, make a facebook group or a "X" hashtag or videos on Youtube. All of them prob take the same or less time to create and maintain, you get to air your views and maybe someone will actually listen....
You have mentioned already that you won't be renewing your ST, that's fair enough, it's your life & money but this line has been used by different users sharing your exact same view which is why we all know who you are. Change tactic, move on and try and see the world in a more positive light.
I think you could be flogging a dead horse there, @Otter87 !
As always, I admire your thoughtfulness and decency but we’re dealing here with someone who thinks purely in black and white and probably thinks nuance is the discovery that your mother’s sister has found a couple of long lost sisters.
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But L1 then was a considerably worse standard than now
Ignore. He talks bollocks to get people to bite then insults someone and then gets banned. I doubt he has a season ticket.
Well, thanks a bunch for bringing me back to earth with a bang #MindlessDrugHoover. I thought I'd finally managed to eradicate the memory of that particular pairing from my grey cells.
Seeing quite a bit of stick on here and on Twitter for the decision to move Keogh on - where were these Keogh truthers the last few weeks when he was widely held up as someone who shouldn’t start?!
I actually see this as a positive piece of management and shows Blooms isn’t afraid to have the difficult decisions when required, also hopefully frees up some of the wage budget and gives more playing time guarantees to Taf, Low and Forino.
We do now look a little lighter at CB depth wise of course, but maybe there’s a plan there.
more than to happy to have a convo with you on a match day and can show you my ST..for reference I have 2 ST'S in the FA stand .
Unless McCarthy has been retrained as a Centre Back when he returns?
You are entitled to be critical of his football ability but calling someone I presume you have never met ‘as thick as mince’ is uncalled for. Anyone who has met him will vouch for the fact that Keogh is a very likable person and in any case, footballers should be judged on their ability on the pitch, not their academic talents.
Bit sensitive today?
This used to be...Come and say that to my face!!!...so I can see an improvement.
I believe you mate...no need for a convo...although I would check with your GP if watching Wycombe is good for your blood pressure.
I didn't think Keogh was as bad as others thought...but don't feel that bothered he has moved on. Not sure where that puts me.
I’m in the same boat. I’d have been happy to keep him but we can probably do better for the money.
I think it’s a good sign of Blooms development that he’s willing to make these sort of decisions.
If you take up the offer, I suggest you take @bargepole with you!
I'm not sure how it works in football, but in most businesses an announcement that someone is 'leaving by mutual consent to pursue other opportunities', generally is code for 'We no longer require your services, but to avoid embarrassment and negative publicity, if you agree to resign with immediate effect, we'll pay you £x and call it a day'.
He was probably on a one year contract, so we may have had to pay some proportion of the remainder.
They might have, Do kids still get them free in the Family Stand?
I'm guessing that a fee has been agreed. It would be lower than terminating his contract out-right but a deal that works for both parties. It might have been for free if he's got a deal lined up with a club that can't pay a fee or that offers to pay him more or closer to home or at a "bigger" club, just like Arteta and Aubameyang at Arsenal (if you believe what you watch on the Amazon series).
Probably the right thing, it just seemed a season too far.
Sad it didn't work out for him though, I met him at the season ticket refund waiver day (rolls off the tongue that) over the summer and had a long chat with him. Seemed like a really nice bloke, intelligent too (that's for the idiot above who described him as "thick as mince"). Was really good with the kids who were there as well, as were all the players.
Good luck for the future Keezy
Before the Bristol Rovers match he was taking the defence through some drills and I thought aha! Useful to have someone not in the match side, but helping out the team, so I assumed he was looking at heading into coaching.
Are you permanently locked on furiously aggressive negative mode? It's really grating.
He has two season tickets in the FA. One for each braincell.
Really surprised to see that people see any of this in any way controversial or evidence of awful/brilliant management by MB.
There was clearly rationale behind the signing of Keogh in the first place. An experienced, once more-than-capable defender at our level, someone with the ability to pass it out of defence and someone MB clearly knew.
It probably didn't work out as hoped for by all parties, but I would think that is probably because his best playing days are clearly behind him and a lack of stability in what turned out to be an ever-rotating back 3/4/5/9.
I don't think he was as bad as some others are making out - more latter day Adam El-Abd, but I think a mutual agreement to part ways is the right thing for both parties at the moment.
I wish him luck.
I thought that was my remit
That was a horrible summer. We had the Hayes scenario demanding the club or he was off, meaning we were in limbo and ended up in the bargain bin for signings. Relations, or well past their best vets.
Duberry's "we're not here to make up the numbers" battle cry before a woeful start to the season is the stuff of nightmares.
Wasn't Frank Sinclair pretty rubbish too or am I misremembering?
You obviously had something going on that other week where you seemed to be trying to rack up the highest amount of disapproval ever seen on the gasroom, but no you're generally in and around a reasoned take to how we're currently doing.
Best wishes to Richard on his next move, not really worked out here and I suspect he will either retire or get a player/coach role in Non League.
Quality player in his time but father time has caught up with him and at 37 the rigours of League One have not been possible for him this season.
Now we only need two CB's playing in a four. We have cover with Low, Taf and Forino with Grimmer very able to play CB as he has in the past. An experienced quick LB is what we need now.
Haydon Roberts at Bristol City might be worth a look.
No, I think he was fairly reasonable.
Duberry, Oliver, Westwood were a really poor set of options that season.
I remember being at Norwich for the 5-2 defeat, and their 5th goal was literally wandering through out defence. That was probably the low point of their defending.
based on your response..it's not me with the 2 brain cells.....any reason why you are being rude ?!!
Seemed to be a very good pro but just a little slow for L1 nowadays. Sensible decision from all parties and may allow us to sign someone else.
Really enjoyed his first spell at Wycombe and every summer for a number of years was hoping he would return and always kept an eye out for his performances elsewhere.
Wish him all the best for the future. Thanks Richard!
Fair enough, I think I'm getting my 90s Chelsea CBs who came to Wycombe mixed up
I think you could be flogging a dead horse there, @Otter87 !
As always, I admire your thoughtfulness and decency but we’re dealing here with someone who thinks purely in black and white and probably thinks nuance is the discovery that your mother’s sister has found a couple of long lost sisters.