''Not surprised in effect stealing another club's ground felt a good idea for your club.''
How exactly were they stealing? Wasps were tenants at Adams Park, and were paying WWFC a rental for using it on match days. That isn't stealing, any more than the tenant of a flat I own is stealing the property by paying me the monthly rentals.
Imagine having a tenant who put holes in your carpet, insisted you would have to go out for the day when some of their mates wanted to come round and then tried to flog your house in return for offering you a bedroom at their new mansion?
I jumped on the Wasps bandwagon for a few seasons when they played at Adams Park. It was excellent fun and I'll never knock rugger as a sport. Being allowed a drink or two on the the valley terrace whilst watching top level sport wasn't a bad way to spend an afternoon. It was a golden era for Wasps and I was glad at the time that they had rocked up to our town. I also had mixed views on the stadium proposal as it all seemed so exciting. I fell for all the hype!! But, I'm so glad it didn't happen for all the reasons mentioned in other posts. I'm saddened in a way how the Wasps saga has ended but any "allegiance" to them evaporated when they upped sticks and fled. I'll be in Frank Adams tomorrow cheering on the home team.
The equivalent of England playing at Twickenham in a 6 Nations Game is the equivalent of England football team playing at Wembley in a major tournament.
You’d find Wembley could easily sell out x4 times over for that.
It’s the simple fact that football has a much wider global spread, leading to not many international tournaments taking place in the UK.
There were undoubted benefits for the local area in having a top flight rugby team based at Adams Park.
For WWFC however, where the finances of the two clubs were so intertwined under Hayes, there was very little actual benefit to the club from rent/catering etc. It just left us with a completely f***ed pitch in the second half of each season.
We should have had a measurable income from Wasps each season that we could invest in the team/facilities, however that never proved to be the case.
I find it absolutely staggering that Brentford - a Premier League club who could well be playing in Europe next season - share with their ground with egg-chasers.
Well, Brentford seem to be doing OK, currently 8th in the PL, and with some notable scalps taken this season. Their average crowd is around 17,000, while London Irish are getting c. 10,000.
There are other considerations beyond money. As a matter of principle, football and rugby should be kept separate - and an elite club certainly shouldn't have to share its ground with another sport.
Spurs' new stadium hosts boxing, NFL and music concerts, while Brentford's ground is shared with the London Irish. The Rugby Union side play on the same pitch as Brentford FC, and with that sport needing its own pitch markings, the leftovers from the Irish games are often seen during Premier League matches.26 Dec 2022
Please can everyone leave poor @bargepole alone now? He's seen the error of his early posts and I for one am glad he's coming to support The Mighty Blues.
Don't worry, I'm quite used to banter on forums in circumstances where most other posters don't agree with me.
I've been looking round at other football fan forums, and would have to say that the Gasroom is very civilised compared with the vitriol and blind hatred that is posted on some of them.
Unfortunately, this forum doesn't allow you to edit your previous posts, so @micra will have to stay on the naughty step 🗒️
We also need to remember that we have tried to keep up the fine rugby tradition of kicking the ball as high up and as far forward as possible at regular intervals to make some of those itinerant Wasps supporters feel at home still
I know it's bad, and I shouldn't... but I'm sat having a little giggle to myself imagining the look of horror on @micra face when he saw what he had posted, sorry @micra
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''Not surprised in effect stealing another club's ground felt a good idea for your club.''
How exactly were they stealing? Wasps were tenants at Adams Park, and were paying WWFC a rental for using it on match days. That isn't stealing, any more than the tenant of a flat I own is stealing the property by paying me the monthly rentals.
Trying to steal it would be more accurate.
Imagine having a tenant who put holes in your carpet, insisted you would have to go out for the day when some of their mates wanted to come round and then tried to flog your house in return for offering you a bedroom at their new mansion?
Dark days.
Yep, pretty clear it's no comparison really.
But this is all bringing up some horrible memories.
"Don't worry about the money" - we did worry about the money not long after.
"Wasps bring a big money benefit" - later proved to be false - "neutral" benefit
Roll on the football tomorrow. Can't wait.
I jumped on the Wasps bandwagon for a few seasons when they played at Adams Park. It was excellent fun and I'll never knock rugger as a sport. Being allowed a drink or two on the the valley terrace whilst watching top level sport wasn't a bad way to spend an afternoon. It was a golden era for Wasps and I was glad at the time that they had rocked up to our town. I also had mixed views on the stadium proposal as it all seemed so exciting. I fell for all the hype!! But, I'm so glad it didn't happen for all the reasons mentioned in other posts. I'm saddened in a way how the Wasps saga has ended but any "allegiance" to them evaporated when they upped sticks and fled. I'll be in Frank Adams tomorrow cheering on the home team.
@bargepole
The equivalent of England playing at Twickenham in a 6 Nations Game is the equivalent of England football team playing at Wembley in a major tournament.
You’d find Wembley could easily sell out x4 times over for that.
It’s the simple fact that football has a much wider global spread, leading to not many international tournaments taking place in the UK.
There were undoubted benefits for the local area in having a top flight rugby team based at Adams Park.
For WWFC however, where the finances of the two clubs were so intertwined under Hayes, there was very little actual benefit to the club from rent/catering etc. It just left us with a completely f***ed pitch in the second half of each season.
We should have had a measurable income from Wasps each season that we could invest in the team/facilities, however that never proved to be the case.
I find it absolutely staggering that Brentford - a Premier League club who could well be playing in Europe next season - share with their ground with egg-chasers.
I didn’t know that. You do mean currently, I assume? I’m staggered too.
Well, Brentford seem to be doing OK, currently 8th in the PL, and with some notable scalps taken this season. Their average crowd is around 17,000, while London Irish are getting c. 10,000.
So it sounds like a good move for both clubs.
There are other considerations beyond money. As a matter of principle, football and rugby should be kept separate - and an elite club certainly shouldn't have to share its ground with another sport.
Do Brentford share their ground?
Spurs' new stadium hosts boxing, NFL and music concerts, while Brentford's ground is shared with the London Irish. The Rugby Union side play on the same pitch as Brentford FC, and with that sport needing its own pitch markings, the leftovers from the Irish games are often seen during Premier League matches.26 Dec 2022
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Whoops! I’ve exploded the Gasroom.
I need help @drcongo in ridding the garbage.
Sorry.
A trifle out of my depth, unfortunately.
I tried to copy just the relevant bit and laboriously deleted the rest but the gobbledygook popped up in its place.
Total embarrassment.
I deserve to be banned.
Appreciate the amending of the wording. Luckily we never saw what would have happened if they had stolen it.
Worst attempted link ever 🤣
Sensational scenes @micra !
Please can everyone leave poor @bargepole alone now? He's seen the error of his early posts and I for one am glad he's coming to support The Mighty Blues.
You do realise @bargepole is a parody account?
I mean....
"... Olive green Barbour jacket, dark brown corduroy trousers, and Caterpillar boots."
No-one would dream of wearing that combination in civilised or uncivilised company.
(And apologies if you are real Mr (presumably) @bargepole.... You have my sympathy....)
(And, for the avoidance of doubt, I am not being remotely serious...)
Don't worry, I'm quite used to banter on forums in circumstances where most other posters don't agree with me.
I've been looking round at other football fan forums, and would have to say that the Gasroom is very civilised compared with the vitriol and blind hatred that is posted on some of them.
Unfortunately, this forum doesn't allow you to edit your previous posts, so @micra will have to stay on the naughty step 🗒️
You've just revealed yourself as GCHQ's top analyst
A pretty good one to be fair. Until the Booker stuff.
We also need to remember that we have tried to keep up the fine rugby tradition of kicking the ball as high up and as far forward as possible at regular intervals to make some of those itinerant Wasps supporters feel at home still
I know it's bad, and I shouldn't... but I'm sat having a little giggle to myself imagining the look of horror on @micra face when he saw what he had posted, sorry @micra
Here, here
Agreed, we showed more respect to a Derby fan who tried at length to justify his club’s bending of the rules.
@micra POTD
@micra, clearly time wasting again with the posting above!
I've spent an hour trying to decipher that code to view the image.🤪
@bargepole Welcome to a sport with finesse.
@micra Hold tight, I'll call nurse.
Never thought I would see @micra resorting to shithousery!