I prefer a glowering presence myself @Shev though I do enjoy watching tne big smile on JJ's face as he chats with the ref over some prostrate player he's just totalled.
At least James has a very active interest in WWFC and engages with the fans across all social media channels. I think he's been great in his role and it's difficult to churn out content without relying on rumours at this time of year.
Churning out stories off rumours isn't an issue - that's totally standard practice - but using those accounts as sources actually makes a mockery of the journalism industry in my view.
I'm not having a go at him; I'm despairing at the complete lack of editorial standards at the BFP. It's abysmal. I work in the same industry, broadly speaking, and it's embarrassing.
This is the normal from journalists across the board.
My favourite one these days is
HEADLINE - GOVERNMENT CALLED SHAMBOLIC OVER <insert topic>
By-line ' by Mavis in Droitwich during a recent phone in'. No longer do we use credible sources of informed opinions we use the most eye catching part to get readers / viewers / listeners into the story.
It is, but there's a world of difference between writing a story based on a rumour from a credible/verified source and doing so using those Twitter accounts. It's really bad.
See I thought journos should reference sources in articles so if a six person Twitter account is the source it is referenced
I see some journos not referencing. Is that now OK?
@ReturnToSenda seen you talk about being in 'the industry' recently. Do you reference others when you use their social media thoughts in pieces or Tweets?
Must be a minefield to get to the truth in social media but I've always assumed those embedded in an area know who to trust. Is that true?
A lot of this "churnalism" cack has been championed by the sleazes at mail online but just really isn't needed, it's about grabbing ownership of someone else's work, driving clicks to your own website for advertising revenue or cheating the search results to pretend to be the first source people should look to.
A simple retweet would get the info out in most cases and where someone Is referencing a tweet in an article it should really be embedded or included with context.
The point is random Twitter accounts with zero credibility shouldn't be used as sources in the first place. I thought it was patently obvious that that's terrible practice - apparently not.
But it is needed for precisely those reasons. I think most people in the industry would admit it's not ideal, but there are ways of playing it so it's not just 'cheap clicks' - and the best outlets combine it with list content etc. People would complain just as much if everything was paywalled; something has to give at the end of the day.
I'd give the guy credit for at least giving his sources. That's at least better than the pundits who say "my sources tell me" when what they mean is "someone with an agenda said".
With all due respect to the young lads trying to make their way in the industry etc etc, he's certainly better than the previous guy
His pieces were not so much a spot the typo / error, but spot the well written part!
And while the current guy is a bit of a spam artist, I'd prefer this approach than the bad old Wasps days where we'd get about half a page buried 3 or 4 pages inside the paper.
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Reading the above comments, it does give me hope that we may become the first club to sign someone because he has a nice smile.
I prefer a glowering presence myself @Shev though I do enjoy watching tne big smile on JJ's face as he chats with the ref over some prostrate player he's just totalled.
JJ's catch phrase should be a shocked "Who, me?"
I can't believe I'm seeing the local newspaper use fake transfer news Twitter accounts (one of them has six followers, ffs) as sources for a story. Jesus wept. https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/sport/20241219.can-alfie-mawson-revive-career-wycombe-sign/
Tomorrow is a big day.
Let's just say that 😋
You know something, don't you 😏
He joined the Cottages in 2018
Interesting development, could he build something and make Wycombe his home?
At least James has a very active interest in WWFC and engages with the fans across all social media channels. I think he's been great in his role and it's difficult to churn out content without relying on rumours at this time of year.
This landed him a move to Swansea City of the Premier League for around £5
BARGAIN!
around £5. Was it £4.99?
Churning out stories off rumours isn't an issue - that's totally standard practice - but using those accounts as sources actually makes a mockery of the journalism industry in my view.
Surely the quality of the writing is doing that already.
Give the guy a break. He has certainly raised the profile of the club locally with his reporting in the BFP.
I'm not having a go at him; I'm despairing at the complete lack of editorial standards at the BFP. It's abysmal. I work in the same industry, broadly speaking, and it's embarrassing.
This is the normal from journalists across the board.
My favourite one these days is
HEADLINE - GOVERNMENT CALLED SHAMBOLIC OVER <insert topic>
By-line ' by Mavis in Droitwich during a recent phone in'. No longer do we use credible sources of informed opinions we use the most eye catching part to get readers / viewers / listeners into the story.
It seems clickbait is the new journalism.
That's a bit of a generalisation, but a vox pop is still more credible than random unverified Twitter accounts.
So do I.
Football journalism is built on this kind of stuff, especially in the close season. This is hardly Reuters reporting on genocide in Ethiopia.
From that last sentence could it be construed that, broadly speaking, working as a journalist is embarrassing?
Or does the , over ride that? And, with an Oxford and!
It is, but there's a world of difference between writing a story based on a rumour from a credible/verified source and doing so using those Twitter accounts. It's really bad.
Lol ffs. No, seeing such sloppy editorial standards is embarrassing.
That's not an Oxford comma, that would require the commas separating a list of items.
#INB4MICRA
@drcongo you are of course correct.
Correct, handsome, and an Oxford comma enthusiast.
Are you calling @perfidious_albion handsome?
See I thought journos should reference sources in articles so if a six person Twitter account is the source it is referenced
I see some journos not referencing. Is that now OK?
@ReturnToSenda seen you talk about being in 'the industry' recently. Do you reference others when you use their social media thoughts in pieces or Tweets?
Must be a minefield to get to the truth in social media but I've always assumed those embedded in an area know who to trust. Is that true?
A lot of this "churnalism" cack has been championed by the sleazes at mail online but just really isn't needed, it's about grabbing ownership of someone else's work, driving clicks to your own website for advertising revenue or cheating the search results to pretend to be the first source people should look to.
A simple retweet would get the info out in most cases and where someone Is referencing a tweet in an article it should really be embedded or included with context.
The point is random Twitter accounts with zero credibility shouldn't be used as sources in the first place. I thought it was patently obvious that that's terrible practice - apparently not.
But it is needed for precisely those reasons. I think most people in the industry would admit it's not ideal, but there are ways of playing it so it's not just 'cheap clicks' - and the best outlets combine it with list content etc. People would complain just as much if everything was paywalled; something has to give at the end of the day.
I'd give the guy credit for at least giving his sources. That's at least better than the pundits who say "my sources tell me" when what they mean is "someone with an agenda said".
With all due respect to the young lads trying to make their way in the industry etc etc, he's certainly better than the previous guy
His pieces were not so much a spot the typo / error, but spot the well written part!
And while the current guy is a bit of a spam artist, I'd prefer this approach than the bad old Wasps days where we'd get about half a page buried 3 or 4 pages inside the paper.