It's not politicking. It's a suggestion that people hold off on the expressions of gratitude for seeing us through until we see how (and indeed if) he intends to see us through. All we have so far is a rather ominous warning buried within some words about accessing all the help the government can offer. So given we know so little about our new owner, it's worth having in the back of our minds what we do know about his values.
One of those things is he is a Republican in New Orleans, a city with a vanishingly small number of Republicans. Now there's nothing wrong being a Republican. Some of the presidents you'd most want to be in charge in the age of Covid-19 are Republicans (I'm thinking mostly of Nixon and Teddy, probably also Bush Snr). But it's perhaps worth noting that Republicans can often take a less sentimental approach to providing welfare support to employees and maintaining distressed assets.
Let's judge Rob Couhig on the actions he takes. I merely provide a voice of caution urging my fellow Chairboys not to assume he'll take the right decisions just because we'd like him to.
While that is all very true, it only takes imagining what state we'd be in, if this had happened a year ago.
Unless you're presuming someone else would have bailed us out.
And if someone else had, presumably you'd be casting the same doubts on them, as on Mr Couhig above?
Let’s at least retain a smidgin of optimism and avoid for the time being speculation about the way in which Mr Couhig’s past political persuasions might impact on the situation.
@aloysius said:
It's not politicking. It's a suggestion that people hold off on the expressions of gratitude for seeing us through until we see how (and indeed if) he intends to see us through. All we have so far is a rather ominous warning buried within some words about accessing all the help the government can offer. So given we know so little about our new owner, it's worth having in the back of our minds what we do know about his values.
One of those things is he is a Republican in New Orleans, a city with a vanishingly small number of Republicans. Now there's nothing wrong being a Republican. Some of the presidents you'd most want to be in charge in the age of Covid-19 are Republicans (I'm thinking mostly of Nixon and Teddy, probably also Bush Snr). But it's perhaps worth noting that Republicans can often take a less sentimental approach to providing welfare support to employees and maintaining distressed assets.
Let's judge Rob Couhig on the actions he takes. I merely provide a voice of caution urging my fellow Chairboys not to assume he'll take the right decisions just because we'd like him to.
You've just said the same thing, only using alot more words. Classic politicking (copyright @micra )
Mr Couhig is hardly going to publically say, don't worry lads I've got plenty of spare cash to cover the losses we are going to experience as a result of the virus. The Government will only help those businesses (assuming they include clubs at our level as businesses) who are demonstrably in need.
I'm hoping the Government will put pressure on the Premier League to hand over some of their loose change to help the likes of us, because they certainly won't voluntarily.
@aloysius said:
Let's see what measures he introduces before piling on the hero worship, eh? This is a Republican politician we're talking about. Not a group noted for their commitment to social security.
"Some of my decisions may have undesirable short-term ramifications and provoke some adverse reactions."
And of course all previous custodians of WWFC were active members of the Socialist Workers Party. What a shame they couldn't hold on to the club for just a bit longer.
@aloysius said:
Let's see what measures he introduces before piling on the hero worship, eh? This is a Republican politician we're talking about. Not a group noted for their commitment to social security.
"Some of my decisions may have undesirable short-term ramifications and provoke some adverse reactions."
And of course all previous custodians of WWFC were active members of the Socialist Workers Party. What a shame they couldn't hold on to the club for just a bit longer.
No, probably not, but they were members of our local community rather than the 'worldwide wanderers phenomenon'. @malone asks a fair question - would I harbour doubts about any owner - and @micra answers it correctly, yes I would. The one thing that would make me most confident was knowing that our owners could afford to subsidise us during a short, sharp downturn. Would the Saudi Arabian bidders? Probably. Would the consortium of footballers? Potentially. Can the Couhigs? Hopefully.
Who would not want those cuddly saudis renowned the world over for their non-profit generosity and protecting workers rights to have control of our proud club. These yanks though...you have to ask hard questions about their aims.
@aloysius said:
It's not politicking. It's a suggestion that people hold off on the expressions of gratitude for seeing us through until we see how (and indeed if) he intends to see us through. All we have so far is a rather ominous warning buried within some words about accessing all the help the government can offer. So given we know so little about our new owner, it's worth having in the back of our minds what we do know about his values.
One of those things is he is a Republican in New Orleans, a city with a vanishingly small number of Republicans. Now there's nothing wrong being a Republican. Some of the presidents you'd most want to be in charge in the age of Covid-19 are Republicans (I'm thinking mostly of Nixon and Teddy, probably also Bush Snr). But it's perhaps worth noting that Republicans can often take a less sentimental approach to providing welfare support to employees and maintaining distressed assets.
Let's judge Rob Couhig on the actions he takes. I merely provide a voice of caution urging my fellow Chairboys not to assume he'll take the right decisions just because we'd like him to.
@eric_plant Nixon would have secretly ordered the bombing of the virus shortly after asking his covert opps people to break into Andy Harman's office. (Wipe the tape, I said...)
@Wendoverman said: @eric_plant Nixon would have secretly ordered the bombing of the virus shortly after asking his covert opps people to break into Andy Harman's office. (Wipe the tape, I said...)
Weirdly, Nixon is generally regarded as a very successful president, despite the whole having to resign after attempting to cover up criminal activity thing. Not sure I’d have him top of my list for a crisis though.
@Chris said:
Weirdly, Nixon is generally regarded as a very successful president, despite the whole having to resign after attempting to cover up criminal activity thing. Not sure I’d have him top of my list for a crisis though.
He was an almost Trumpian paranoid figure (albeit more diplomatic) who believed everyone was against him in the media, was left a toxic situation in Vietnam by Johnson which he seemed to be trying to solve while at the same time letting Kissinger increase bombing and the number of troops and went a bit freestyle to open up relations with China and get some missile deals with the Ruskies. Unfortunately for his legacy his political hatreds meant he was also a lot more crooked even that the US was willing to accept in its Presidents. I would not want him running Wycombe though . At least Gerald Ford and Ronnie Reagan both had a sports background.
@aloysius said:
Let's see what measures he introduces before piling on the hero worship, eh? This is a Republican politician we're talking about. Not a group noted for their commitment to social security.
"Some of my decisions may have undesirable short-term ramifications and provoke some adverse reactions."
And of course all previous custodians of WWFC were active members of the Socialist Workers Party. What a shame they couldn't hold on to the club for just a bit longer.
No, probably not, but they were members of our local community rather than the 'worldwide wanderers phenomenon'. @malone asks a fair question - would I harbour doubts about any owner - and @micra answers it correctly, yes I would. The one thing that would make me most confident was knowing that our owners could afford to subsidise us during a short, sharp downturn. Would the Saudi Arabian bidders? Probably. Would the consortium of footballers? Potentially. Can the Couhigs? Hopefully.
I think the plan is that the big money owners come along when we're in the championship and our current ownership team has "done us up"
@Wendoverman said:
Who would not want those cuddly saudis renowned the world over for their non-profit generosity and protecting workers rights to have control of our proud club. These yanks though...you have to ask hard questions about their aims.
Knowing the way a certain section of our fan base go on, even if some billionaire owner came along moved us to a supreme, easy access stadium, and got us to the premier league playing champagne football, they'd be moaning about kick off times and price of tickets.
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We were already to expect ticket prices to go up next season, even in normal times.
Let's hope we still have some sort of football to watch next season, and all minor gripes will fade away.
For about 2 games, and then we'll all be back debating the trivial.
They definitely don’t @Right_in_the_Middle. This is no time for politicking. (Think I may have made up that word.)
It's not politicking. It's a suggestion that people hold off on the expressions of gratitude for seeing us through until we see how (and indeed if) he intends to see us through. All we have so far is a rather ominous warning buried within some words about accessing all the help the government can offer. So given we know so little about our new owner, it's worth having in the back of our minds what we do know about his values.
One of those things is he is a Republican in New Orleans, a city with a vanishingly small number of Republicans. Now there's nothing wrong being a Republican. Some of the presidents you'd most want to be in charge in the age of Covid-19 are Republicans (I'm thinking mostly of Nixon and Teddy, probably also Bush Snr). But it's perhaps worth noting that Republicans can often take a less sentimental approach to providing welfare support to employees and maintaining distressed assets.
Let's judge Rob Couhig on the actions he takes. I merely provide a voice of caution urging my fellow Chairboys not to assume he'll take the right decisions just because we'd like him to.
While that is all very true, it only takes imagining what state we'd be in, if this had happened a year ago.
Unless you're presuming someone else would have bailed us out.
And if someone else had, presumably you'd be casting the same doubts on them, as on Mr Couhig above?
Of course he/she would.
Let’s at least retain a smidgin of optimism and avoid for the time being speculation about the way in which Mr Couhig’s past political persuasions might impact on the situation.
You've just said the same thing, only using alot more words. Classic politicking (copyright @micra )
Mr Couhig is hardly going to publically say, don't worry lads I've got plenty of spare cash to cover the losses we are going to experience as a result of the virus. The Government will only help those businesses (assuming they include clubs at our level as businesses) who are demonstrably in need.
I'm hoping the Government will put pressure on the Premier League to hand over some of their loose change to help the likes of us, because they certainly won't voluntarily.
And of course all previous custodians of WWFC were active members of the Socialist Workers Party. What a shame they couldn't hold on to the club for just a bit longer.
No, probably not, but they were members of our local community rather than the 'worldwide wanderers phenomenon'. @malone asks a fair question - would I harbour doubts about any owner - and @micra answers it correctly, yes I would. The one thing that would make me most confident was knowing that our owners could afford to subsidise us during a short, sharp downturn. Would the Saudi Arabian bidders? Probably. Would the consortium of footballers? Potentially. Can the Couhigs? Hopefully.
To be fair that sums up most of my life so far...
Who would not want those cuddly saudis renowned the world over for their non-profit generosity and protecting workers rights to have control of our proud club. These yanks though...you have to ask hard questions about their aims.
Wonder what happened at yeovil?? Our gain clearly
Nixon?????
Let me get this straight is someone suggesting we should have Nixon in the white house and Saudis owning Wycombe, aren’t things bad enough
@eric_plant Nixon would have secretly ordered the bombing of the virus shortly after asking his covert opps people to break into Andy Harman's office. (Wipe the tape, I said...)
“There will be no hand wash, at the White House“
Weirdly, Nixon is generally regarded as a very successful president, despite the whole having to resign after attempting to cover up criminal activity thing. Not sure I’d have him top of my list for a crisis though.
He successfully destabilised Cambodia
I think I’d put Tricky Dickie above the current incumbent.
He was an almost Trumpian paranoid figure (albeit more diplomatic) who believed everyone was against him in the media, was left a toxic situation in Vietnam by Johnson which he seemed to be trying to solve while at the same time letting Kissinger increase bombing and the number of troops and went a bit freestyle to open up relations with China and get some missile deals with the Ruskies. Unfortunately for his legacy his political hatreds meant he was also a lot more crooked even that the US was willing to accept in its Presidents. I would not want him running Wycombe though . At least Gerald Ford and Ronnie Reagan both had a sports background.
I'm not sure the world has gone mad enough for a Gasroom Nixon debate. It just seems to surreal.
All bets were off once we found out Andrew Howard was both a shape shifting lizard and a Freemason...
Indeed and we were all worried Reagan was an idiot who would provoke a war...
I think the plan is that the big money owners come along when we're in the championship and our current ownership team has "done us up"
Knowing the way a certain section of our fan base go on, even if some billionaire owner came along moved us to a supreme, easy access stadium, and got us to the premier league playing champagne football, they'd be moaning about kick off times and price of tickets.
Rob: "If we don't play another game between now and the end of the season, we would be able to survive"
But what did he REALLY mean by that statement?
Just listened to Rob Couhig and he was very positive about the club and us getting through this.
He meant we'd have enough to eat but we'd have to forage for it in the woods.