Oh it was a good game - even if only for the unexpected result - I guess I'm just used to watching the Premier League on the telly. I thought it was brilliantly reffed too, difference in standard plain to see. One other thing: the kiosk queues at Vicarage Road make ours look quick, which I didn't think was possible.
If the US tour does go ahead, it could help with iFollow revenue. The best thing about MLS is the fans, and they are stuck with a lousy product. Though most would gravitate to the PL, it just takes a percentage to opt for the Wycombe experience, with the peerless commentary of @bluntphil and co.
The very cynical side of me thinks we should scout Chinese players, as China tend to follow their sporting exports avidly. Not sure GA would go for that, though.
@chairboyscentral said:
I was at the Watford - Liverpool game and found it quite sad that it felt like I was just watching on the telly.
I actually thought it was a good game and is the only one I have watched from start to finish on Sky this season. Excellent refereeing, no bookings, no VAR reviews and Mr Parry's number one team getting smacked.
Strange and rather sad how some people gain their pleasures in life.
As I said, it’s strange, sad and rather pathetic how some people derive their pleasures in life.
For the record, I’ve been going to Tranmere games as a reporter or simply as a fan since the 1970’s, I have great affection for the club and I count many of their former players and managers as personal friends.
What about the occasion you publically suggested that the "justice" of an Everton goal equated with that of the Hillsborough report? You really are not the paragon of virtue you profess to be.
By the way, a few months ago you promised to ignore my posts!
@chairboyscentral said: @Shev Is a big part of MLS' problem that it's got too many teams?
I don't think it helps, for sure. The most significant problem to my mind is that football is difficult to ingrain into the culture. America is so spread out, that if a kid loves the game, he is still probably only able to play once a week when his parents give him a lift to his club. Whereas obviously growing up in England, kicking a football is a constant way of life as a kid. Throw down a couple of jumpers and have a "one and in" with alternating goalie.
The U.S. could really use some stars to market the game to the next generation. Maybe Pulisic could develop into that. My nephew plays for a club, but his favourite player is Luca Modric. America needs stars, and enough young interest to start the vicious cycle of more players-better players-better product-more players, that could eventually result in American stars who stay home and make the MLS a league that could compete with Europe.
I think the above can happen, but it may take 20-30 years, if it ever does.
Think the problem is Shev that folk have been saying socccer will take off since the days of Phil Wosenham in the late 1960’s or NY Cosmos in the ‘70’s or.....
Your point about culture is well made. That is why 50% of floating ‘fans’ turning up at Adams Park two hours pre match and leaving an hour after the final whistle, as suggested by Rob C. is a pipe dream.
Maybe we should have a Definitive Longstanding Personal Grudges thread to go alongside the ex-players one, so the usual suspects can have their regular snipes at each other and let everyone else get on with reading about the subject in hand.
It's one thing disagreeing with someone's opinion but for a few people it seems to be more about who is saying something than what they're saying and it long ago went beyond tedious.
@MindlessDrugHoover said:
Maybe we should have a Definitive Longstanding Personal Grudges thread to go alongside the ex-players one, so the usual suspects can have their regular snipes at each other and let everyone else get on with reading about the subject in hand.
It's one thing disagreeing with someone's opinion but for a few people it seems to be more about who is saying something than what they're saying and it long ago went beyond tedious.
I totally agree with this. I would like to think I’ve never started a vendetta against anyone, but I do admit to standing up for myself if attacked. I will make a pledge to turn the other cheek in future, but I do wish that we could disagree with each other without it getting personal.
@MindlessDrugHoover said:
Maybe we should have a Definitive Longstanding Personal Grudges thread to go alongside the ex-players one, so the usual suspects can have their regular snipes at each other and let everyone else get on with reading about the subject in hand.
It's one thing disagreeing with someone's opinion but for a few people it seems to be more about who is saying something than what they're saying and it long ago went beyond tedious.
Agreed. I hide one particular "sniper" but reading the constant digs at alan p is bloody tedious pathetic nonsense.
@our_frank said: @peterparrotface Speak for yourself. I had a tenner on exactly that scenario pre-season.
Blimey our frank, that was some foresight on your part. I’m the biggest optimist going, but I never dreamed we’d be this high in the table. Can you do my national lottery numbers for me?
@MindlessDrugHoover said:
Maybe we should have a Definitive Longstanding Personal Grudges thread to go alongside the ex-players one, so the usual suspects can have their regular snipes at each other and let everyone else get on with reading about the subject in hand.
It's one thing disagreeing with someone's opinion but for a few people it seems to be more about who is saying something than what they're saying and it long ago went beyond tedious.
I totally agree with this. I would like to think I’ve never started a vendetta against anyone, but I do admit to standing up for myself if attacked. I will make a pledge to turn the other cheek in future, but I do wish that we could disagree with each other without it getting personal.
Rigorously standing up for yourself is obviously quite in order, but what I find hard to accept is your continual ridiculing of other posters opinions (particularly mine). I accept that your football knowledge is far superior to mine and probably every other poster on this Board (except perhaps the sadly missed Richie!), but there may be the odd occasion when another person's view has merit.
I apologise to other contributors who are bored with our exchanges and I will in future endeavour to resist reacting to your posts.
@mooneyman said:
What about the occasion you publically suggested that the "justice" of an Everton goal equated with that of the Hillsborough report? You really are not the paragon of virtue you profess to be.
By the way, a few months ago you promised to ignore my posts!
Minus 10 for this special post!
@micra will be getting nervous about you beating his gasroom record!
Didn't someone get -20 or something for suggesting Bloomfield shouldn't play against Ipswich because his split loyalties meant he wouldn't try hard enough.
@chairboyscentral said: @Shev Is a big part of MLS' problem that it's got too many teams?
I don't think it helps, for sure. The most significant problem to my mind is that football is difficult to ingrain into the culture. America is so spread out, that if a kid loves the game, he is still probably only able to play once a week when his parents give him a lift to his club. Whereas obviously growing up in England, kicking a football is a constant way of life as a kid. Throw down a couple of jumpers and have a "one and in" with alternating goalie.
The U.S. could really use some stars to market the game to the next generation. Maybe Pulisic could develop into that. My nephew plays for a club, but his favourite player is Luca Modric. America needs stars, and enough young interest to start the vicious cycle of more players-better players-better product-more players, that could eventually result in American stars who stay home and make the MLS a league that could compete with Europe.
I think the above can happen, but it may take 20-30 years, if it ever does.
Similar to Women's football part of the problem is people pointing to every game, change or step as being essential for the sports future and wanting to constantly define it's success. Does the MLS have to be "as good" as the Premier League or the NFL?? Whatever that means. Does League One? Have been to a couple of MLS games in the past and going to another soon, 2020 MLS seems a lot bigger, bolder and more authentic than it was a few years back, combination of big money owners and backers, some named players but also good South American international talent, purpose built stadiums, big crowds in some. There's huge challenges of competition and the size of the country but if 40,000 people in Seattle or 20,000 in Miami are enjoying themselves each week then why not. I'd certainly compare it pretty favourably with something like the Aussie A League in terms of attendance, quality and challenging it's anti-football media and existing sports competition.
@mooneyman said:
What about the occasion you publically suggested that the "justice" of an Everton goal equated with that of the Hillsborough report? You really are not the paragon of virtue you profess to be.
By the way, a few months ago you promised to ignore my posts!
Minus 10 for this special post!
@micra will be getting nervous about you beating his gasroom record!
@mooneyman said:
What about the occasion you publically suggested that the "justice" of an Everton goal equated with that of the Hillsborough report? You really are not the paragon of virtue you profess to be.
By the way, a few months ago you promised to ignore my posts!
Minus 10 for this special post!
@micra will be getting nervous about you beating his gasroom record!
I think I’ll have to concede defeat @Malone. Minus 13 at the last count.
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Oh it was a good game - even if only for the unexpected result - I guess I'm just used to watching the Premier League on the telly. I thought it was brilliantly reffed too, difference in standard plain to see. One other thing: the kiosk queues at Vicarage Road make ours look quick, which I didn't think was possible.
If the US tour does go ahead, it could help with iFollow revenue. The best thing about MLS is the fans, and they are stuck with a lousy product. Though most would gravitate to the PL, it just takes a percentage to opt for the Wycombe experience, with the peerless commentary of @bluntphil and co.
The very cynical side of me thinks we should scout Chinese players, as China tend to follow their sporting exports avidly. Not sure GA would go for that, though.
Not a good idea for spread of Coronavirus.
@Shev Is a big part of MLS' problem that it's got too many teams?
Strange and rather sad how some people gain their pleasures in life.
Touched a nerve did I Mr Parry!
This is an example of your arrogance
https://therealefl.co.uk/2019/05/13/absolutely-zero-respect-these-tranmere-fans-are-not-happy-with-sky-sports/
As I said, it’s strange, sad and rather pathetic how some people derive their pleasures in life.
For the record, I’ve been going to Tranmere games as a reporter or simply as a fan since the 1970’s, I have great affection for the club and I count many of their former players and managers as personal friends.
What about the occasion you publically suggested that the "justice" of an Everton goal equated with that of the Hillsborough report? You really are not the paragon of virtue you profess to be.
By the way, a few months ago you promised to ignore my posts!
I don't think it helps, for sure. The most significant problem to my mind is that football is difficult to ingrain into the culture. America is so spread out, that if a kid loves the game, he is still probably only able to play once a week when his parents give him a lift to his club. Whereas obviously growing up in England, kicking a football is a constant way of life as a kid. Throw down a couple of jumpers and have a "one and in" with alternating goalie.
The U.S. could really use some stars to market the game to the next generation. Maybe Pulisic could develop into that. My nephew plays for a club, but his favourite player is Luca Modric. America needs stars, and enough young interest to start the vicious cycle of more players-better players-better product-more players, that could eventually result in American stars who stay home and make the MLS a league that could compete with Europe.
I think the above can happen, but it may take 20-30 years, if it ever does.
Think the problem is Shev that folk have been saying socccer will take off since the days of Phil Wosenham in the late 1960’s or NY Cosmos in the ‘70’s or.....
Your point about culture is well made. That is why 50% of floating ‘fans’ turning up at Adams Park two hours pre match and leaving an hour after the final whistle, as suggested by Rob C. is a pipe dream.
Maybe we should have a Definitive Longstanding Personal Grudges thread to go alongside the ex-players one, so the usual suspects can have their regular snipes at each other and let everyone else get on with reading about the subject in hand.
It's one thing disagreeing with someone's opinion but for a few people it seems to be more about who is saying something than what they're saying and it long ago went beyond tedious.
Would be easier to rename the Gasroom "Longstanding Personal Grudges"
I totally agree with this. I would like to think I’ve never started a vendetta against anyone, but I do admit to standing up for myself if attacked. I will make a pledge to turn the other cheek in future, but I do wish that we could disagree with each other without it getting personal.
Agreed. I hide one particular "sniper" but reading the constant digs at alan p is bloody tedious pathetic nonsense.
I'm not sure anyone expected to be 3rd in League One having been top for a decent time and attract an attendance of 3286 for a midweek league game.
@peterparrotface Speak for yourself. I had a tenner on exactly that scenario pre-season.
Blimey our frank, that was some foresight on your part. I’m the biggest optimist going, but I never dreamed we’d be this high in the table. Can you do my national lottery numbers for me?
Rigorously standing up for yourself is obviously quite in order, but what I find hard to accept is your continual ridiculing of other posters opinions (particularly mine). I accept that your football knowledge is far superior to mine and probably every other poster on this Board (except perhaps the sadly missed Richie!), but there may be the odd occasion when another person's view has merit.
I apologise to other contributors who are bored with our exchanges and I will in future endeavour to resist reacting to your posts.
Minus 10 for this special post!
@micra will be getting nervous about you beating his gasroom record!
Didn't someone get -20 or something for suggesting Bloomfield shouldn't play against Ipswich because his split loyalties meant he wouldn't try hard enough.
Similar to Women's football part of the problem is people pointing to every game, change or step as being essential for the sports future and wanting to constantly define it's success. Does the MLS have to be "as good" as the Premier League or the NFL?? Whatever that means. Does League One? Have been to a couple of MLS games in the past and going to another soon, 2020 MLS seems a lot bigger, bolder and more authentic than it was a few years back, combination of big money owners and backers, some named players but also good South American international talent, purpose built stadiums, big crowds in some. There's huge challenges of competition and the size of the country but if 40,000 people in Seattle or 20,000 in Miami are enjoying themselves each week then why not. I'd certainly compare it pretty favourably with something like the Aussie A League in terms of attendance, quality and challenging it's anti-football media and existing sports competition.
Records are there to be beaten!
-28 for @aloysius questioning the loyalty of Wycombe’s most loyal servant.
I think I’ll have to concede defeat @Malone. Minus 13 at the last count.