@Jonny_King said:
Thanks Micra. So he's still a QPR player then and not a free agent? Gaz did say last week that he was close to bringing in a loan player.
He has just signed a new one year contract. He spent a short spell on loan at Bishops Stortford last season according to
one website. Collected a yellow card every game, I think. Clearly very competitive (as was tonight's match).
not sure what game you watched @fame_46 but we didn't hardly touch the ball in the first 12/15 mins of the game, so outplaying them no but it was a half decent performance.
Muller put in a great performance, confident, good marking forward and back and dare I say if he performs like that regularly will fill Pierre's boots, couple of nice moments from Tyson if he gets back to match fit could be good, Brown looked good in goal and all round good performance from the team
Thanks @micra. Interesting move to (potentially) loan in a squad player, but then again could work out cheaper than signing someone on a one year deal.
@Jonny_King said:
Thanks micra. Interesting move to (potentially) loan in a squad player, but then again could work out cheaper than signing someone on a one year deal.
I believe he would still be able to play for QPR's U23 and reserve teams, so it may be the case of setting up a loan that would only really take effect if needed.
@NewburyWanderer, I agree that the floodlights seem poor since the upgrade, there are dark patches. It looks as though they have not been been balanced correctly. Others say the same. I didn't go last night, have the broken bulbs been replaced? I know it costs money to replace them but it doesn't give a good impression to leave broken bulbs all season. It takes so long to turn them all on, one day we will have LED lights, all on at the flick of a switch!
Didn't notice whether the broken bulbs had been replaced Steve, but glad that someone else agrees with me about the floodlights. Very poor at the moment.
With regards to the floodlights, they were acquired by Ivor Beeks from surplus from the Olympic Stadium before its efficient and cost-effective conversion to a purpose-built football stadium.
I'm no expert in floodlighting, though I get the impression that those bulbs provide a concentrated beam, far much so that what would be required in an array with a smaller amount of bulbs mounted on pylons on each corner of the pitch.
We got them on the cheap to satisfy a FL ruling on floodlight strength, though I don't know how much of a saving they represent compared to bulbs that were specifically designed for our pylons.
the floodlights were tested only 3 weeks ago and provide 623lux which is Championship standard lighting, this is in full darkness btw not half light like last night which makes it seem weird.
For Seasons 2011 through to 2014 a grounds floodlighting must be provided to an average minimum lux reading of at least the following levels: For Leagues 1 & 2 it’s 350 lux , Championship League 500 lux and to achieve the best level for Digital TV coverage 800 lux will be required. No single reading can be less·than the following: For leagues 1 & 2 it’s 210 lux , Championship 300 lux or less than one quarter of the highest reading obtained so as to ensure an even spread of light. These levels will increase for 2014 seasons onwards.
The readings shall be obtained by the lighting engineer·on a grid formation of 88 markings (8 across and 10 down) evenly spaced with the outside·readings falling on the pitch boundary line. The average of all the readings is taken to be the average·illumination level in lux of the floodlighting installation. The instrument used is an approved and calibrated light level and spread meter with tracable fixed datum. The meter has to be mounted upon a lighting assembly board at a predetermined height from the pitch level. The lux values must be tested every two years in accordance with current guidelines by an approved·independent neutral contractor. Floodlights must be retested after any significant alterations. Existing·certification will be accepted provided that the test was carried out within the last two years unless·work has been carried out at the ground which may have affected the previous readings. When applying for a higher grading, the certificate should have been issued no more than six months·prior to application.
An “FA approved” contractor is one which has proven experience with FA Flood Light Surveying, is in possession of the NICEIC (National Inspection Council for Electrical Installation Contracting) Approved Contractors Awarded FULL OPEN APPROVAL. The Contractor must, when detailing the lux values, give confirmation in writing of the date when the illumination test equipment was last calibrated.Further information: -The Football League minimum average lux value for League Division Two is 350 Lux. A new club entering League Division Two must comply with the minimum floodlighting requirements by 1stMay in the first season from the date of its admission.
The Football League shall require a test certificate and chart to be submitted every two years. Any Club which fails to deliver a test certificate as required shall be guilty of misconduct. In addition to any penalties imposed, The League may arrange to have an inspection carried out and the cost of the inspection shall be borne by the Club.
1.4 Clubs promoted into The Championship shall have until the 31st May in the first season from the date of promotion to meet the minimum floodlighting requirements for The Championship clubs
The issue is not with the strength of the light where the beams are directed, but more that the coverage of the whole pitch is a bit patchy. The excuse that 'it was quite dark' isn't a very promising one for a floodlight system.
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He has just signed a new one year contract. He spent a short spell on loan at Bishops Stortford last season according to
one website. Collected a yellow card every game, I think. Clearly very competitive (as was tonight's match).
not sure what game you watched @fame_46 but we didn't hardly touch the ball in the first 12/15 mins of the game, so outplaying them no but it was a half decent performance.
Muller put in a great performance, confident, good marking forward and back and dare I say if he performs like that regularly will fill Pierre's boots, couple of nice moments from Tyson if he gets back to match fit could be good, Brown looked good in goal and all round good performance from the team
Thanks @micra. Interesting move to (potentially) loan in a squad player, but then again could work out cheaper than signing someone on a one year deal.
I believe he would still be able to play for QPR's U23 and reserve teams, so it may be the case of setting up a loan that would only really take effect if needed.
@fame_46 Ive not missed a game for nearly 5 seasons, we didn't outplay anybody.
@TheatreOfChairs Thanks for that. Good idea and would be a shrewd bit of business by GA.
@NewburyWanderer, I agree that the floodlights seem poor since the upgrade, there are dark patches. It looks as though they have not been been balanced correctly. Others say the same. I didn't go last night, have the broken bulbs been replaced? I know it costs money to replace them but it doesn't give a good impression to leave broken bulbs all season. It takes so long to turn them all on, one day we will have LED lights, all on at the flick of a switch!
Sounds promising on Muller.
Hopefully we might see the player that drew the now legendary words from Paul Hayes.
Didn't notice whether the broken bulbs had been replaced Steve, but glad that someone else agrees with me about the floodlights. Very poor at the moment.
With regards to the floodlights, they were acquired by Ivor Beeks from surplus from the Olympic Stadium before its efficient and cost-effective conversion to a purpose-built football stadium.
I'm no expert in floodlighting, though I get the impression that those bulbs provide a concentrated beam, far much so that what would be required in an array with a smaller amount of bulbs mounted on pylons on each corner of the pitch.
We got them on the cheap to satisfy a FL ruling on floodlight strength, though I don't know how much of a saving they represent compared to bulbs that were specifically designed for our pylons.
the floodlights were tested only 3 weeks ago and provide 623lux which is Championship standard lighting, this is in full darkness btw not half light like last night which makes it seem weird.
For Seasons 2011 through to 2014 a grounds floodlighting must be provided to an average minimum lux reading of at least the following levels: For Leagues 1 & 2 it’s 350 lux , Championship League 500 lux and to achieve the best level for Digital TV coverage 800 lux will be required. No single reading can be less·than the following: For leagues 1 & 2 it’s 210 lux , Championship 300 lux or less than one quarter of the highest reading obtained so as to ensure an even spread of light. These levels will increase for 2014 seasons onwards.
The readings shall be obtained by the lighting engineer·on a grid formation of 88 markings (8 across and 10 down) evenly spaced with the outside·readings falling on the pitch boundary line. The average of all the readings is taken to be the average·illumination level in lux of the floodlighting installation. The instrument used is an approved and calibrated light level and spread meter with tracable fixed datum. The meter has to be mounted upon a lighting assembly board at a predetermined height from the pitch level. The lux values must be tested every two years in accordance with current guidelines by an approved·independent neutral contractor. Floodlights must be retested after any significant alterations. Existing·certification will be accepted provided that the test was carried out within the last two years unless·work has been carried out at the ground which may have affected the previous readings. When applying for a higher grading, the certificate should have been issued no more than six months·prior to application.
An “FA approved” contractor is one which has proven experience with FA Flood Light Surveying, is in possession of the NICEIC (National Inspection Council for Electrical Installation Contracting) Approved Contractors Awarded FULL OPEN APPROVAL. The Contractor must, when detailing the lux values, give confirmation in writing of the date when the illumination test equipment was last calibrated.Further information: -The Football League minimum average lux value for League Division Two is 350 Lux. A new club entering League Division Two must comply with the minimum floodlighting requirements by 1stMay in the first season from the date of its admission.
The Football League shall require a test certificate and chart to be submitted every two years. Any Club which fails to deliver a test certificate as required shall be guilty of misconduct. In addition to any penalties imposed, The League may arrange to have an inspection carried out and the cost of the inspection shall be borne by the Club.
1.4 Clubs promoted into The Championship shall have until the 31st May in the first season from the date of promotion to meet the minimum floodlighting requirements for The Championship clubs
The issue is not with the strength of the light where the beams are directed, but more that the coverage of the whole pitch is a bit patchy. The excuse that 'it was quite dark' isn't a very promising one for a floodlight system.
Interesting point about the GK @fame_46. Cheers.