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If we win promotion, I think Kone will sign a new contract and won’t leave for anything less than mega money of £20 million plus. If we don’t win promotion think he goes for about £8 million.

In IT we call it something rather unsophisticated:

"shit in, shit out"

Basically if your models are fed on bad data they will have bad outcomes regardless of how clever they are.

Wonder if all players have all of the same measured data put in from the same age etc, so it is possible, but as above nowhere near as likely as under the traditional methods.

It's the same old argument with comedy clubs , TV programmes and previously schools, doctors etc. I don't see any racism, why does it matter as long as they are talented, funny, qualified etc. Short answer is it doesn't matter if you are a white male who is employed, it matters more if you are black, unemployed and either considered too temperamental or lazy or something else sloppy based on prejudice, or simply not considered for roles because John is mates with Billy from the rugby club. Representation of black players is actually pretty good but it stops at coaching generally for a variety of reasons.

I can see why people don't want to get into it on a football forum but people who are indignant it can't and doesn't ever happen are more worrying.

Of course it happens - I'm just fascinated as to how a numerically focused database is supposed to show bias towards players of a certain ethnicity. Discrimination at a human level, whether conscious or not, is a different matter.

I tend to agree with you that he is in for the long haul - you can’t create a cat one academy overnight afterall.

i guess what I am trying to do for myself, if not others, is temper my excitement more than a little. I still remember being particularly annoyed with Derby supporters not thinking about what might happen when Mel Morris was splurging his and Derbys way towards the abyss. While also seeing our Berkshire neighbours and the plight they are in now in since their owner decided not to (or physically can’t anymore) cover the costs of his investments.

I guess what I am really saying is that while I am excited and looking forward to what this investment can bring, going back to the old Wycombe way of “never too high, never too low” still isnt a bad philosophy to live by.

I wondered what might happen to the Rumour Mill when the transfer window closed... here's the answer!

Maupay and Watkins arrived at Brentford within one working day of each other.

Jack Grimmer is so important to the team, he will always be my first choice at RB. His runs down the wing are inspirational, driving the team on. We really miss him when he is not playing. I would be surprised if Back is first choice.

I think that any debate on the demographics of the squad and how it occurs is not appropriate for the gasroom. I appreciate people might have their own thoughts but that to me does not add any value to the purpose of these threads and only fuels people to put in counter arguments. Move on

Personally I thought it an interesting addition to the debate. It was an observation rather than a criticism, which if you are interested enough to follow the premise of @aloysius's post about the potential for AI to use data in a discriminatory way, is worth looking into a little in the wider context (and disproving your comment that it is only on here someone can find racism in a bloody algorithm!).

The post didn't say that we (WWFC) were being discriminatory and I find nothing contrary in celebrating an excellent window and broadening my knowledge on a linked subject.