I've no idea of the licencing terms but from a purely practical point of view it can't happen. You'd have to test the alcohol content of every beer being taken back to the stands.
Because noone would try and swap over the contents of the cups would they?
At both Wembley and AP I've seen people take alcohol (pints of beer) back to the seats in the stand as it is. How they get past the stewards I don't know, but they do. You'd think people knew the rules, but apparently not (or they think they are above the rules).
I'm not saying it shouldn't be allowed, but currently it isn't and the club have to work within those rules or risk having the alcohol licence taken away.
Not disagreeing with what you’re saying but football needs to get with the times.
There’s certainly ways to introduce alcoholic/non alcoholic beverages into the game. Whether its particualr areas of the ground or particular games that’s its permitted.
It’s a bit archaic to just have a complete ban on it.
When I used to go to AP for W***ps games, there was no restriction on taking alcoholic drinks to your seat in the stand, and there was also no such thing as the 'away end', supporters of both teams could mix freely in all of the stands.
I guess the restrictions are in place at football matches due to the more tribal nature of the supporters, and elements in every club's fanbase who deem it necessary to aggressively threaten the other side's fans, which would be amplified if they were allowed to drink alcohol during the game.
The fewer people drinking any beverage behind you in the stand the better.
I can't be the only one slightly scared when someone brings a piping hot coffee to the seat behind in an open cup. Especially now when the football is so high quality and we could be scoring at any point.
There's a guy not far away who must go through a few pairs of pants each game with his screams of OOOOOOHHHHHs at shots that fly miles wide. Him with any sort of beveragino would be dangerous.
Archaic it may be Vincey, but having seen some sights from people lagered up before they get in...the thought of them also being able to take a few extra pints in with them would bother me.😊
I seem to recall Tony Blair relaxed the licensing laws so that we could have a nice Cafe Society...it was almost as if he'd never been in a town centre on Friday and Saturday night to see how Cafe Society weaves, shouts, vomits and fights in Britain!
I think you'll find that the average number of goals scored per professional football game is around 2.7, whereas in top level Rugby there are an average of about 6.5 tries scored per game. So arguably, more incidents for fans to get excited about.
I recall a study somewhere that worked out that football is so much loved because the scoring rate is optimal for building excitement and most matches, even when one team dominates, can swing the other way with a defensive cock-up, wonder strike or dodgy pen. It’s why the food and drink stands are barely used during play as even if you are a neutral you can’t risk missing what may be the only goal.
The ban on beer while watching a game to me is outdated. If anything it is counter productive as it encourages people to squeeze one or two more in before the kick off or at half time.
The bigger problem is now someone who decides that 1/2 a gram is a better way to spend their cash than 2 or 3 pints in the Caledonian.
Also ‘inflation’ has adversely affected rugby. Initially ‘a try’ was literally the reward for an attempt at kicking a goal. When I first was required to play the oval ball game a try was 3 points (I am that old), then 4 and by the time I stopped playing 5. By comparison since 1863 a goal has always been a goal under Association laws. Even at 2-0 down you’re in with a chance, by comparison with rugby as much as 14-0 down and that’s five penalty / drop goal kicks to take the lead.
Plus the complexity of the constantly changing rules in an attempt to make the game interesting / flow / safe and there is the fundamental reason the oval game lacks popularity.
Add in the safety issues, the decline of the grassroots game and the failure of the professional business model and Rugby as we know it has, basically, no future.
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£6.50 a pint coming to a Vere Suite near you soon.
On the subject of beer, is there any reason why non alcoholic beer can not be served in the stadium and drunk in the stands?
I've no idea of the licencing terms but from a purely practical point of view it can't happen. You'd have to test the alcohol content of every beer being taken back to the stands.
Couldn’t non alcoholic beer just be served in a different coloured reuseable cup or similar
Because noone would try and swap over the contents of the cups would they?
At both Wembley and AP I've seen people take alcohol (pints of beer) back to the seats in the stand as it is. How they get past the stewards I don't know, but they do. You'd think people knew the rules, but apparently not (or they think they are above the rules).
I'm not saying it shouldn't be allowed, but currently it isn't and the club have to work within those rules or risk having the alcohol licence taken away.
Not disagreeing with what you’re saying but football needs to get with the times.
There’s certainly ways to introduce alcoholic/non alcoholic beverages into the game. Whether its particualr areas of the ground or particular games that’s its permitted.
It’s a bit archaic to just have a complete ban on it.
I’m told a beer poured into a disposable coffee cup and taken to the stands at half time has been known - allegedly.
When I used to go to AP for W***ps games, there was no restriction on taking alcoholic drinks to your seat in the stand, and there was also no such thing as the 'away end', supporters of both teams could mix freely in all of the stands.
I guess the restrictions are in place at football matches due to the more tribal nature of the supporters, and elements in every club's fanbase who deem it necessary to aggressively threaten the other side's fans, which would be amplified if they were allowed to drink alcohol during the game.
The fewer people drinking any beverage behind you in the stand the better.
I can't be the only one slightly scared when someone brings a piping hot coffee to the seat behind in an open cup. Especially now when the football is so high quality and we could be scoring at any point.
There's a guy not far away who must go through a few pairs of pants each game with his screams of OOOOOOHHHHHs at shots that fly miles wide. Him with any sort of beveragino would be dangerous.
That must be why they allow drinks in the stands at rugby games @Malone. There's no excitement to create a dangerous incident.
Archaic it may be Vincey, but having seen some sights from people lagered up before they get in...the thought of them also being able to take a few extra pints in with them would bother me.😊
I seem to recall Tony Blair relaxed the licensing laws so that we could have a nice Cafe Society...it was almost as if he'd never been in a town centre on Friday and Saturday night to see how Cafe Society weaves, shouts, vomits and fights in Britain!
I think you'll find that the average number of goals scored per professional football game is around 2.7, whereas in top level Rugby there are an average of about 6.5 tries scored per game. So arguably, more incidents for fans to get excited about.
There's no comparison between an egg being bundled over a line and a ball hitting the back of the net.
Can we have a multiple 'like' option for this post please @drcongo?
How the absolute hell did we manage to get to egg chasing on this thread !! Disgraceful !!
I recall a study somewhere that worked out that football is so much loved because the scoring rate is optimal for building excitement and most matches, even when one team dominates, can swing the other way with a defensive cock-up, wonder strike or dodgy pen. It’s why the food and drink stands are barely used during play as even if you are a neutral you can’t risk missing what may be the only goal.
Some more here:
https://barcainnovationhub.fcbarcelona.com/blog/luck-and-uncontrollable-factors-in-football/
You can never eradicate the pests!
There's nothing exciting about a fat bloke falling over.
The less scoring there is the more exciting each individual score is.
most rugby matches are effectively over with twenty minutes to go with one team way ahead. How many Union games end in a draw? V few.
The ban on beer while watching a game to me is outdated. If anything it is counter productive as it encourages people to squeeze one or two more in before the kick off or at half time.
The bigger problem is now someone who decides that 1/2 a gram is a better way to spend their cash than 2 or 3 pints in the Caledonian.
On the other hand with more scores per game, each one is in itself less exciting.
Also ‘inflation’ has adversely affected rugby. Initially ‘a try’ was literally the reward for an attempt at kicking a goal. When I first was required to play the oval ball game a try was 3 points (I am that old), then 4 and by the time I stopped playing 5. By comparison since 1863 a goal has always been a goal under Association laws. Even at 2-0 down you’re in with a chance, by comparison with rugby as much as 14-0 down and that’s five penalty / drop goal kicks to take the lead.
Plus the complexity of the constantly changing rules in an attempt to make the game interesting / flow / safe and there is the fundamental reason the oval game lacks popularity.
Add in the safety issues, the decline of the grassroots game and the failure of the professional business model and Rugby as we know it has, basically, no future.
Clearly it's easier to slide in across the whole length of a pitch then get the ball into the far smaller goal in football.
Conversions even sillier. Someone having ages to take a free shot at sky high posts and it doesn't matter how high over them you get it,
Apparently hedgehogs eat wasps so perhaps we should build a hotel for them!
Especially when you can use your hands!
You'd laugh if Steve Evans took a pratfall.
Could he take any other kind of fall?