Have to say that sounds about right @rmjlondon and should make for an exciting spectacle. Might just fail to meet the requirement of a minimum of 6(?) with first team appearances to be included. But those who maybe don’t meet that requirement are far from “fringe” players.
From the EFL Trophy rules this season, "...must include at least four Qualifying Players in the ten outfield Players" seems to be the important bit:
7 Players
7.1 In all rounds of the Competition a player shall be a “registered player” of his Club.
7.2 For the EFL Clubs, a registered player is one who:
7.2.1 would be registered and eligible to participate in a match in the League Competition for that EFL Club commencing at the same time and on the same date as the Match in accordance with the provisions of the Regulations; or
7.2.2 would be so eligible but for the fact that they are registered on a Long Term Loan at a club playing in the National League (National Division, North Division or South Division) but by the agreement of the Club, the National League club and the Player he has permission to return to play in this Competition.
7.3 Each EFL Club shall play its Full Available Strength in and during all Matches. Full Available Strength means the EFL Club must include at least four Qualifying Players in the ten outfield Players named in the starting eleven on the Team Sheet.
7.4 Qualifying Player means any Player who:
7.4.1 had started the immediately preceding First Team Fixture (as defined below);
7.4.2 subsequently starts the immediately following First Team Fixture;
7.4.3 is in the list of ten Players at the Club with the highest number of starting appearances in First Team Fixtures in the same Season;
7.4.4 has made forty or more starting appearances in First Team Fixtures or international equivalents (and not limited to the same Club or Season); or
7.4.5 is on standard loan from a Premier League Club or any EFL Club operating a Category One Academy.
7.5 First Team Fixture means the League Competition, Premier League, EFL Cup or FA Challenge Cup (but shall, in the context of Rules 7.4.3 and 7.4.4 only, also include this Competition).
7.6 Any EFL Club failing to meet the requirement to play Full Available Strength will be required to pay a fine of up to £5,000.
7.7 For the Invited Clubs, a registered player is one who would be registered and eligible to participate in a Premier League and/or, subject to Rules 7.9 and 7.10, Premier League 2 match commencing at the same time and on the same date as the Match in accordance with the provisions of the relevant Premier League rules.
7.8 Each Invited Club must ensure that in each Match:
7.8.1 at least six of the starting eleven players named on the Team Sheet are players who were aged under 21 as at the 30th June in the year in which the Season concerned commenced; and
7.8.2 no more than two players who:
(i) are aged 21 or over; and
(ii) have made 40 or more appearances in a First Team Fixture (either in the starting elven or as a playing substitute)
in each case as at the 30th June in the year in which the Season concerned, shall be named on the Team Sheet.
7.9 A Player sent out on a Temporary Loan Transfer (or Temporary Transfer where a Premier League Club) but who remains eligible to participate in non-first team football for his parent club (which would include Premier League 2 matches) will not be eligible to participate in this Competition (on the basis that it is a first team competition) unless otherwise permitted by Rule 7.2.2.
7.10 Players registered only on a PDL8 or other ‘non-first team’ registration form are not eligible to participate in the Competition.
7.11 A maximum of 5 Players registered on a Temporary Loan Transfer (or Temporary Transfer where a Premier League Club) can be named in the Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match played in this Competition. This maximum shall reduce to 4 Players where a Club names a Player on the team sheet who is registered on an Emergency Goalkeeper Loan (or any equivalent Temporary Transfer where a Premier League Club).
7.12 Players registered on a Temporary Loan Transfer (or Temporary Transfer where a Premier League Club) will be eligible to play unless the loaning Club (or club) expressly indicates it does not consent as part of the applicable loan agreement.
7.13 No Player may play for more than one Club in the Competition in any one Season.
Guidance
Matches in the Competition are first team fixtures and will count towards the application of Article 5.3 of the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (the so-called ‘3+2’ Rule).
Looking forward to this. The squad is so strong these days, that even a heavily rotated lineup will be strong.
Thompson has to play, he needs the games and won't play for 2 weeks otherwise.
Arrons and Sido to get their first starts after injury.
Parker has to start as he's the only uninjured player who hasn't so far.
Would probably go with
Yates
Grimmer Sido Phillips Mascoll
Thompson Oboforh AN OTHER
Kashket Parker Arrons
The AN OTHER position - not sure. Depends if Bloomfield is ready, what the status of JGS is, but could easily be Freeman.
I think the rule is 4 players have to have played in the previous game (or will the next), so Grimmer, Thompson, Phillips all started, and Kashket/Arrons came on.
Presume the rule is "Played" rather than "started".
If not, Arrons or Kashket most likely need to start the next one.
Bloomfield shouldn't be anywhere near the squad for this game. He needs time off and with no game on Saturday it's a great opportunity to rest and let his head injuries settle further
@Malone the rules state started not played, so I'd expect that to be the interpretation. However, it's not the only criteria used to determine your 4 qualifying outfield players in the make up of your full available strength.
See earlier in this thread for a detailed cut and paste of the criteria by Steve_Peart at 9:27am
I don't see JJ starting but Blooms needs to play as he will have to play against Sunderland as we have nobody else as we now have two players with broken feet.
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Have to say that sounds about right @rmjlondon and should make for an exciting spectacle. Might just fail to meet the requirement of a minimum of 6(?) with first team appearances to be included. But those who maybe don’t meet that requirement are far from “fringe” players.
Jombati and Bloomfield keep us from being fined due to long serving player rule.
Second thoughts - depending on precise criteria that line-up should meet the rules.
From the EFL Trophy rules this season, "...must include at least four Qualifying Players in the ten outfield Players" seems to be the important bit:
7 Players
7.1 In all rounds of the Competition a player shall be a “registered player” of his Club.
7.2 For the EFL Clubs, a registered player is one who:
7.2.1 would be registered and eligible to participate in a match in the League Competition for that EFL Club commencing at the same time and on the same date as the Match in accordance with the provisions of the Regulations; or
7.2.2 would be so eligible but for the fact that they are registered on a Long Term Loan at a club playing in the National League (National Division, North Division or South Division) but by the agreement of the Club, the National League club and the Player he has permission to return to play in this Competition.
7.3 Each EFL Club shall play its Full Available Strength in and during all Matches. Full Available Strength means the EFL Club must include at least four Qualifying Players in the ten outfield Players named in the starting eleven on the Team Sheet.
7.4 Qualifying Player means any Player who:
7.4.1 had started the immediately preceding First Team Fixture (as defined below);
7.4.2 subsequently starts the immediately following First Team Fixture;
7.4.3 is in the list of ten Players at the Club with the highest number of starting appearances in First Team Fixtures in the same Season;
7.4.4 has made forty or more starting appearances in First Team Fixtures or international equivalents (and not limited to the same Club or Season); or
7.4.5 is on standard loan from a Premier League Club or any EFL Club operating a Category One Academy.
7.5 First Team Fixture means the League Competition, Premier League, EFL Cup or FA Challenge Cup (but shall, in the context of Rules 7.4.3 and 7.4.4 only, also include this Competition).
7.6 Any EFL Club failing to meet the requirement to play Full Available Strength will be required to pay a fine of up to £5,000.
7.7 For the Invited Clubs, a registered player is one who would be registered and eligible to participate in a Premier League and/or, subject to Rules 7.9 and 7.10, Premier League 2 match commencing at the same time and on the same date as the Match in accordance with the provisions of the relevant Premier League rules.
7.8 Each Invited Club must ensure that in each Match:
7.8.1 at least six of the starting eleven players named on the Team Sheet are players who were aged under 21 as at the 30th June in the year in which the Season concerned commenced; and
7.8.2 no more than two players who:
(i) are aged 21 or over; and
(ii) have made 40 or more appearances in a First Team Fixture (either in the starting elven or as a playing substitute)
in each case as at the 30th June in the year in which the Season concerned, shall be named on the Team Sheet.
7.9 A Player sent out on a Temporary Loan Transfer (or Temporary Transfer where a Premier League Club) but who remains eligible to participate in non-first team football for his parent club (which would include Premier League 2 matches) will not be eligible to participate in this Competition (on the basis that it is a first team competition) unless otherwise permitted by Rule 7.2.2.
7.10 Players registered only on a PDL8 or other ‘non-first team’ registration form are not eligible to participate in the Competition.
7.11 A maximum of 5 Players registered on a Temporary Loan Transfer (or Temporary Transfer where a Premier League Club) can be named in the Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match played in this Competition. This maximum shall reduce to 4 Players where a Club names a Player on the team sheet who is registered on an Emergency Goalkeeper Loan (or any equivalent Temporary Transfer where a Premier League Club).
7.12 Players registered on a Temporary Loan Transfer (or Temporary Transfer where a Premier League Club) will be eligible to play unless the loaning Club (or club) expressly indicates it does not consent as part of the applicable loan agreement.
7.13 No Player may play for more than one Club in the Competition in any one Season.
Guidance
Matches in the Competition are first team fixtures and will count towards the application of Article 5.3 of the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (the so-called ‘3+2’ Rule).
Wow! Thanks for that Steve (I think!).
4 players who have played the previous game, or will play the next game is pretty mild.
6 starts to become more of a hassle.
Yates
Grimmer
Sido
Phillips
JJ
Ofoborh
Blooms
JGS
Kashket
Parker
Aarons
We might a well give some players returning from injury at least an hour.
Or Sido at RB and Ofoborh to slot into the back four?
Does Thompson use up his suspension tonight or is it one league game he is out for?
Unfortunately not, can't serve league suspensions in this competition.
Looking forward to this. The squad is so strong these days, that even a heavily rotated lineup will be strong.
Thompson has to play, he needs the games and won't play for 2 weeks otherwise.
Arrons and Sido to get their first starts after injury.
Parker has to start as he's the only uninjured player who hasn't so far.
Would probably go with
Grimmer Sido Phillips Mascoll
Thompson Oboforh AN OTHER
Kashket Parker Arrons
The AN OTHER position - not sure. Depends if Bloomfield is ready, what the status of JGS is, but could easily be Freeman.
I think the rule is 4 players have to have played in the previous game (or will the next), so Grimmer, Thompson, Phillips all started, and Kashket/Arrons came on.
Presume the rule is "Played" rather than "started".
If not, Arrons or Kashket most likely need to start the next one.
I'd like us to try a different formation to give us a bit more experience for a future Plan D, E or F
Yates
Grimmer Jombati Oboforh Phillips Mascoll
Thompson Aarons Gardiner-Smith
Parker Kashket
Bloomfield shouldn't be anywhere near the squad for this game. He needs time off and with no game on Saturday it's a great opportunity to rest and let his head injuries settle further
@Malone the rules state started not played, so I'd expect that to be the interpretation. However, it's not the only criteria used to determine your 4 qualifying outfield players in the make up of your full available strength.
See earlier in this thread for a detailed cut and paste of the criteria by Steve_Peart at 9:27am
I don't see JJ starting but Blooms needs to play as he will have to play against Sunderland as we have nobody else as we now have two players with broken feet.
Smyth and Pattison. (Sounds a bit like a firearm.). They shoot horses, don’t they?
Just saying, not suggesting.