For me the clubs culture changed as soon as we stopped being owned by us & we sold out to "an owner".
We have experienced good, bad & indifferent (& possibly ugly) owners before & sadly will do again as that seems to be the way in modern football.
Do not be fooled by the quaint southern charm of the Couhigs, they were just as ruthless business people as Lomtadze etc. the only difference was the number of commas in their respective net worth. Lomtadze & Vishnyakov have never presented themselves as anything other than hard nosed business people so why are some surprised when they behave exactly that way?
As for Rice, he is their football poodle/bitch, who I suspect has very clear targets that he is absolutely expected to deliver against or lose his job. He is also one of those deeply underwhelming, charmless, endlessly bland & self-conciously corporate late 30 somethings that I invariably instantly detested when I met them in the City; always seem impressive on their CVs but always appear so much less in person.
I equally suspect that 90+% of Wycombe fans will forget all the "hurt" if the club win promotion this year and especially if by 2030ish are an established Championship club delivering record profits from the Academy.
Of course for each of you YMMV & I may well know nothing & be talking out my arse again...
Some Gasroomers have inside knowledge, and the vibe from them hasn't been good.
Some Gasroomers don't, but like to pretend they do.
Some people don't like Rice etc and are happy to believe, and pass on, anything that puts them in a bad light.
I know which posters i'd put in which category. Other opinions are available.
The least unlikely scenario to draw from the public information is that the non-signing of Morley swiftly followed by at least one, probably two, record signings felt like a final straw for Blooms.
Another not unlikely scenario is that Blooms is an ambitious man in a cut throat business and knows this is his window of opportunity. Maybe Luton isn't the first job he's applied for this season. He's wise enough to know that 'three and a half years,' at Luton can quickly turn into three and a half months but maybe that represents more job security than he had here. I would imagine that when Luton met his release clause over the weekend there simply wasn't enough will on either side to keep working together.
He was at the Cambridge game in person this season, too, well after ownership had changed.
He also made a comment implying he reads the Gasroom, which as we all know puts you in the 1% of the most nuanced, well-read, and pun-skilled Wycombe fans!
Yes, whether he was in the UK for COVID restriction reasons, visa problems, or love of the club, we can't be sure but he did stay that whole time barely seeing his family
The Couhig period was far, far better than most of the detractors would have it...and of course after several years they could say 'I told you several years ago he was just in it to sell at a profit...'
No-one thought he was a cuddly benefactor (as the years of posts criticial of him would attest) but he bought into the culture to a degree (or at least could fake it) and left us in a better position than he found us.
The worrying thing about the new people is we sort of have no real idea what their agenda is...but perhaps time will tell. we'll have a great few years and we'll end up even more worried when we become Musk SpaceX Wanderers.
I still can't believe some of the dislike for the Couhigs on here. They're not your most conventional football club owners for sure, but overall they were a huge net positive for WWFC. I personally think Pete is a very good man with a genuine enthusiasm for the club
I was one of those herberts questioning Matt’s management when he had that slow start and he proved me wrong.
I am reading some pretty harsh comments about Dan Rice and it does seem that there was a difference of opinion between him and Matt but I’m reserving comment I try not to look a bell end after all the facts come out more than once a managerial cycle .
So I wish nothing but the best for Matt he’s earned my respect for the years of service to the club.
So my guess is we’re going to get a foreign coach not manager and it’s going to be quick.
yes I know about twenty people have probably said that but I’ve got plenty of other shit to scroll through .
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For me the clubs culture changed as soon as we stopped being owned by us & we sold out to "an owner".
We have experienced good, bad & indifferent (& possibly ugly) owners before & sadly will do again as that seems to be the way in modern football.
Do not be fooled by the quaint southern charm of the Couhigs, they were just as ruthless business people as Lomtadze etc. the only difference was the number of commas in their respective net worth. Lomtadze & Vishnyakov have never presented themselves as anything other than hard nosed business people so why are some surprised when they behave exactly that way?
As for Rice, he is their football poodle/bitch, who I suspect has very clear targets that he is absolutely expected to deliver against or lose his job. He is also one of those deeply underwhelming, charmless, endlessly bland & self-conciously corporate late 30 somethings that I invariably instantly detested when I met them in the City; always seem impressive on their CVs but always appear so much less in person.
I equally suspect that 90+% of Wycombe fans will forget all the "hurt" if the club win promotion this year and especially if by 2030ish are an established Championship club delivering record profits from the Academy.
Of course for each of you YMMV & I may well know nothing & be talking out my arse again...
Nah, there was a difference with the Couhigs.
For one thing, Pete is a fan.
Several things can be true at once:
Some Gasroomers have inside knowledge, and the vibe from them hasn't been good.
Some Gasroomers don't, but like to pretend they do.
Some people don't like Rice etc and are happy to believe, and pass on, anything that puts them in a bad light.
I know which posters i'd put in which category. Other opinions are available.
The least unlikely scenario to draw from the public information is that the non-signing of Morley swiftly followed by at least one, probably two, record signings felt like a final straw for Blooms.
Another not unlikely scenario is that Blooms is an ambitious man in a cut throat business and knows this is his window of opportunity. Maybe Luton isn't the first job he's applied for this season. He's wise enough to know that 'three and a half years,' at Luton can quickly turn into three and a half months but maybe that represents more job security than he had here. I would imagine that when Luton met his release clause over the weekend there simply wasn't enough will on either side to keep working together.
Compare Rob’s comments in this to the club statement today. It might all be hot air but it’s important hot air.
https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/24396345.ex-wycombe-owner-calls-qpr-a-screwed-organisation/
Now tell them that all the players and management have to be Danish....
Good question - only one way to find out!
Is he, though?
I wanna see which gasroomers you put in each category
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He chose to stay in High Wycombe rather than be with his family during lockdown. That’s pretty significant.
Yeah I'm not sure he's watching every kick of the ball on Wycombe tv or whatever it's called now.
Committed to the job, for sure, but I don't like to think of any external owners as fans.
He was at the Cambridge game in person this season, too, well after ownership had changed.
He also made a comment implying he reads the Gasroom, which as we all know puts you in the 1% of the most nuanced, well-read, and pun-skilled Wycombe fans!
I don’t think he’s bought a season ticket or anything, but he seemed the most emotionally invested. He certainly had a good time.
Was he actually without his family through his whole period in Wycombe?
In fairness you were at a game this season in person too!
That’s always what I’ve thought.
Haha - touche! Though I messed up my seat numbers, so I was clearly not "all there" anyway. 😕
I'm pretty sure he had his family with him for at least some of the time.
Which would fit with the story about how he couldn't get the visa for them - as in renewed, rather than to set off a stay here.
It did allow me to monitor you from afar and decide if any of the fans you were chatting to were on the swerve list.
I met his wife once, but not sure if she was living here
Yes, whether he was in the UK for COVID restriction reasons, visa problems, or love of the club, we can't be sure but he did stay that whole time barely seeing his family
The plan was for his son to come to the UK and play football wasn’t it? And they couldn’t get a visa for him.
Putting some hot water in the tea and coffee would be a start
Yep, came over for the same game as Shev not so long ago.
A decent strategy!
So which nom de plume is Pete C using on the gasroom?
Kipper the ITK…. Konetheming the Gasroom bad boy…. Shev the Yankee songsmith…. Or is it Kim-il-Swan the overseas satirist?
Pretty much. And he was a visible and approachable bloke too.
And he didn’t to my knowledge sack coaching staff without telling the manager.
The Couhig period was far, far better than most of the detractors would have it...and of course after several years they could say 'I told you several years ago he was just in it to sell at a profit...'
No-one thought he was a cuddly benefactor (as the years of posts criticial of him would attest) but he bought into the culture to a degree (or at least could fake it) and left us in a better position than he found us.
The worrying thing about the new people is we sort of have no real idea what their agenda is...but perhaps time will tell. we'll have a great few years and we'll end up even more worried when we become Musk SpaceX Wanderers.
I still can't believe some of the dislike for the Couhigs on here. They're not your most conventional football club owners for sure, but overall they were a huge net positive for WWFC. I personally think Pete is a very good man with a genuine enthusiasm for the club
I was one of those herberts questioning Matt’s management when he had that slow start and he proved me wrong.
I am reading some pretty harsh comments about Dan Rice and it does seem that there was a difference of opinion between him and Matt but I’m reserving comment I try not to look a bell end after all the facts come out more than once a managerial cycle .
So I wish nothing but the best for Matt he’s earned my respect for the years of service to the club.
So my guess is we’re going to get a foreign coach not manager and it’s going to be quick.
yes I know about twenty people have probably said that but I’ve got plenty of other shit to scroll through .